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« Reply #20 on: March 16, 2008, 06:46:56 PM »

Well I suppose if I have to contribute to the thread...

She didn't nessisarily have to become pregnent before Rajaion became a feral one, after all she was Ashnard's right-hand tactician. Who knows what Ena could have gotten up to in the stable while Ashnard was away? I'm sure being Feral didn't lower Rajaion's libido at all. Ena's a tough girl. I bet she'd even like it rough.
And if she happened to get preggers right before she was marked a traitor and hunted, that little zygote in her may not have developed enough to be aborted if she had (hypothetically and ideally) only conceived the child a few days before Ike showed up in the Keep, and maybe only a week or so later in castle Nados when the Black Knight smacked her around a bit.
Of course when Rajaion awoke he would have no knowledge of Ena's visits during the night, and he would have never thought to mention her baby. I bet she even planned it that way, the saucy minx.
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« Reply #21 on: March 16, 2008, 07:29:04 PM »

I don't think that Ena and Rajaion would have had that many opportunities to do that while he was feral. Ashnard made a comment in FE9 (I think in chapter 22 or 23) about Ena's presence making Rajaion even more feral and made sure to keep them separate.

Between that and Rajaion's inability to recognize Ena until he was about to die, I also think that he would have killed her if she had made herself so defenseless in his presence. Then again, if he didn't recognize her, why did he get so agitated when she was around?

Another thought has also occurred to me, so please pardon my sudden change of subject: The biblical story of Onan sets a precedent for guys getting their widowed sisters-in-law pregnant. Maybe Kurthnaga sired the kid and called it Rajaion's.
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« Reply #22 on: March 16, 2008, 07:50:31 PM »

Another thought has also occurred to me, so please pardon my sudden change of subject: The biblical story of Onan sets a precedent for guys getting their widowed sisters-in-law pregnant. Maybe Kurthnaga sired the kid and called it Rajaion's.
You're putting an awful lot of thought into it... This makes a lot of assumptions that are not implied or even hinted at during the game.
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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2008, 04:50:06 AM »

Defenseless? She's a freaking dragon. I would think they would procreate in their dragon form over their human forms, and that naturally their rituals would be a little rough (you know what they say about girls from Goldoa).
And I always figured when Ashnard said Rajaion was restless when Ena was around, it was just Ashnard showing his ignorance to the entire situation at hand (plus a little thematic foreshadowing). How would Ashnard know how to interpret dragon emotions?
I personally think my theory is very plausible  I always figured behind Ena's reclusive cotton-candy topped exterior broiled the blood of a Wildheart. Little scamp.   
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2008, 03:31:02 PM »

It's hard not to compare such a scene to the end of chapter 1-8, when Muarim was drugged and tried to get Tormod to stay away from him, and Tormod said he'd die before he let Muarim go feral.

Of course, Rajaion had been drugged much longer than Muarim had, and Ena loved Rajaion much more (and in a much different way) than Tormod loved Muarim. Maybe there is no comparison.
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« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2008, 08:13:03 PM »

Or the makers of the game just got so in love with their clichés they couldn't resist throwing in a happy ending for Ena too.

I'm not even trying to be a troll here, I was seriously pissed that after all that work, spanning two consoles, all I got to hear about Rhys was "He teaches school there." I could have thought that up! Where's the inspiration?! I just wanted to throw up.



Yeah, I agree - I'm thinking they had been watching some soaps, and after some mild inspiration just said 'screw continuity, Ena's pregnant, and the dead guy is the father!'

They don't even need to bother trying to explain it themselves; if they were to do that, people like us would criticize it as to why it doesn't make sense, no matter what they said.  But this way, we're all pulling things out of our asses trying to make sense of it.

Also, this topic, with all of its speculation on draconic gestation periods and ejaculation (dragons have super fetuses! Or maybe they just did it on the spot, in his final moments.  Or maybe she has a sac to store his semen!) has provided major lulz.


P.S. - Hee, I'm glad someone cares about Rhys too ... I was hoping he'd have some sort of paired ending with Mia, but alas, it was not to be.  Boring Lucius type ending :\
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2008, 03:03:59 PM »

Also, isn't it possible that she just laid an egg.  Because aren't dragons reptiles, or birds or something?
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2008, 04:13:47 PM »

Dragons are mythical creatures. They can very well do whatever the heck the writers want. Case closed.

Personally, I think all Laguz give birth in human form, thus live birth... Also, if I recall correctly, an elephant's gestation period is roughly 2 years. It wouldn't surprise me if a dragon's is longer (seeing as a dragon could very well be more massive and require a much longer period). For that matter, seeing as a dragon's life span is in the range of several hundred years with a slowed aging process, it also wouldn't be surprising if the development of the fetus is slowed, too (I also don't recall then writers actually telling how long after the events of FE10 Ena actually gave birth). I think the Dark Knight missed the unborn child (a lethal blow would most likely be targeted toward the chest, anyways; the Dark Knight seems skilled enough such that a large exaggerated wound would be redundant).
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« Reply #28 on: March 30, 2008, 07:36:40 PM »

(seeing as a dragon could very well be more massive and require a much longer period).
See:  FMV of Kurthnaga owning the castle.  Apparently, people thought the King had shrunk a lot over time.

Now, Rajaion was the King's oldest son.  See where I'm going with this?
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« Reply #29 on: March 30, 2008, 08:14:47 PM »

Raijaion seemed to shrink though if you look at him, I mean Kurth was really really big, Dheginsea was massive to say the least and Rajaion was well as big as a wyvern.
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« Reply #30 on: March 31, 2008, 11:21:18 AM »

Probably due to the nerfing from the Fire Emblem.  Doesn't mean his seed's going to be as "small" as him, though.
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« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2008, 02:56:55 PM »

I really hadn't meant that his seed would have been smaller, just that I was saying to the post above me he was  alot smaller than the other black dragons.
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« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2008, 10:03:06 AM »

I guess I just can't stop coming up with ridiculous ideas, but what I'm about to say is far-fetched even by my standards.

Maybe Rajaion was resurrected...

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I wouldn't have even brought it up if there weren't a precedent for dragons being resurrected.
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« Reply #33 on: April 14, 2008, 03:19:15 PM »

Yes, but you seem to be forgetting the words "Garnef," "Brammimond" and "Athos."
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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2008, 03:35:01 PM »


But, seriously, I doubt they just resurrected him for a few moments and then have him die again. I mean they don't mention Rajaion at all in the Epilogue, except in Ena's ending, which states "...gave birth to her lost fiance's child...". So it's safe to say he's still dead.
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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2008, 03:37:34 PM »

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