Yet another quick question (slightly spoilerish, maybe)

[theshim is the shimiest shim of all the shims that ever shim]

In Part III, I'm finally up to Chapter 7, and the Greil Mercenaries are facing off against the Daein armies and the Dawn Brigade.  (Shinon, Nephenee, Titania and Haar are all Tier 3 and insanely good; this will be a slaughter.  Fortunately, Jill and Edward are rockin' awesomely on their part; they're just still Tier 2.)

If I kill people with one side, when I switch back, will they still be alive?  (In other words, if Haar kills Jill, will I get Jill back when I'd be controlling her?)

[Hoja]

Yes, they will only  retreat if you defeat them so you can use them when you switch teams, but if you lose them when they are in your team, they will be gone. 

[Black Knight]

Wow I wish I knew that. 
It was about the hardest thing in the world to Talk to the Black Knight in that level with Ike when I thought if any of the Dawn Brigade attacked I would kill them in one shot and that would be the end of them.

By the way, you know you can just recruit Jill with Haar, right?

[Haken]

Micaiah is known for having the shitttiest team in the entire three parts, so it is best to leave Jill with them so they can survive the Laguz rampage in 3-11.

[Ayanami]

Micaiah is known for having the shitttiest team in the entire three parts, so it is best to leave Jill with them so they can survive the Laguz rampage in 3-11.

Maybe so, but she will be at a lower level than she normaally would by getting recruited by the Grail Mercenaries. She should go with them as the Grail Mercenaries offers ALOT more Bonus EXP than the Dawn Brigade. But, this can be easily fixed with Part 4 as they combine all three of the teams Bonus EXP, but you want her with the Grail Mercenaires as they get alot more missions than the Dawn Brigade does.

It was about the hardest thing in the world to Talk to the Black Knight in that level with Ike when I thought if any of the Dawn Brigade attacked I would kill them in one shot and that would be the end of them.

Doing this would be utterly pointless in the first playthrough though.

[Art]

Maybe so, but she will be at a lower level than she normaally would by getting recruited by the Grail Mercenaries. She should go with them as the Grail Mercenaries offers ALOT more Bonus EXP than the Dawn Brigade. But, this can be easily fixed with Part 4 as they combine all three of the teams Bonus EXP, but you want her with the Grail Mercenaires as they get alot more missions than the Dawn Brigade does.

That is true. However, on the other side of the token is the fact that Jill is one of the better Dawn Brigade units in the game: Jill was still in 2nd Tier when I took her to Part 4 Chapter 4 with me, and even with the superpowered enemies that were all over the place they still had around a 35-50% chance of hitting her. (Bar the fact that they'd be able to kill her in two blows if they hit-which they rarely ever did.)

And hey, it's not like being on the Dawn Brigade instantly means that your units will be underleveled. Hey, I BEXP'd Eddie all the way up to 3rd Tier in the prologue of Part 4, and he later went on to kick major dragon butt in the final chapter, so that has to say something, right?

[Hoja]

IMHO it doesn't matter all that much in terms of EXP if you recruit them or not. Ikes team only has two chapters more than Micaiahs, and you are gonna get quite limited in characters in one of them (the one were you need to protect  a spot), given that it's likely that anyone you recruited will have a lower level than the Greil Mercs if you were to use for example Jill, it would make harder some of those chapters until she catches up.  And, as it has been posted before you will make the Dawn Brigade chapters harder than they were before, besides if my memory serves me right you can Bonus EXP anyone  with the combined BEXP of all teams before Chapter 4 prologue.

[Shadow Slayer]

Yeah, I rarely used bonus exp in the Elincia chapters and the Greil merc chapters and after it all I ahd around 300,000 no lie on normal and put a couple people to third tier (Jill being one of em) and it made everyhting so much easier.

[theshim is the shimiest shim of all the shims that ever shim]

Another question:  Can I have Blossom and Paragon on the same person?

[Neofox]

Assuming they have the capacity for both, yes.

[Art]

Assuming they have the capacity for both, yes.

Wouldn't the effects theoretically cancel each other out, though? I mean, they do opposite things (Blossom gives you less experience while Paragon gives you more), so wouldn't they cancel out and thus make it pointless to equip said skills to said people?

[Somewhat Overcooked Cheese]

Wouldn't the effects theoretically cancel each other out, though? I mean, they do opposite things (Blossom gives you less experience while Paragon gives you more), so wouldn't they cancel out and thus make it pointless to equip said skills to said people?

Blossom increases growths a bit.

[Lord Fuckboy]

Only a bit; I sell Blossom because it's only 10%.  And not 60%->70% either, 60%-> 66% ~_~

[chaosprophet]

Only a bit; I sell Blossom because it's only 10%.  And not 60%->70% either, 60%-> 66% ~_~

Have you tried equiping blossom on someone?
While it may be only a 10% bonus in theory it makes a huge difference in practice. Twice I had Sanaki equipped with it and before she started maxing many stats she had an average of 6 stat up per level. And in all her level ups but one she received points in str maxing it at the end. the same happened with Elincia. She almost maxed all stats without the help of any stat boosting item. The same happened with Ena and Kurth.

[Art]

Blossom increases growths a bit.

I thought it worked out as you get increased growths at the cost of a certain amount of EXP.

Or am I wrong on this?

[Lord Fuckboy]

chaosprophet; When I used it on Sothe in FE9 it meant shit all for his stats.  They were right on average with his non-Blossom averages.  It barely makes a difference especially on chars with lower growths in said stat because it's, on average, going to be an extra 4-5% in the growth.  Which results to about 2-3 on average.  I'd rather have the faster experience gain (resulting in more level ups quicker, meaning more stats quicker) than the slowed down experience gain for a slight boost.

Art; he's saying that as well as the fact that the point is to raise your growths.  So it doesn't hinder your experience gain (hence the canceling out) while your growths are raised.

[Art]

Art; he's saying that as well as the fact that the point is to raise your growths.  So it doesn't hinder your experience gain (hence the canceling out) while your growths are raised.

I was actually referring to the experience cancellation when I said 'cancel each other out', but I had forgotten about the extra effect of Blossom on somebody. Once again, it got lost in my ADHD ridden mind.

Sorry about that.

[quanta]

When I used it on Sothe in FE9 it meant shit all for his stats.  They were right on average with his non-Blossom averages.  It barely makes a difference especially on chars with lower growths in said stat because it's, on average, going to be an extra 4-5% in the growth.  Which results to about 2-3 on average.

Are we sure it works the same way in FE10 that it did in FE9?

[Lord Fuckboy]

It wouldn't make much sense if it didn't.  Even if it's 20% (or more >_>) I wouldn't consider it significant, because it makes low growths still low and high growths higher.  I suppose it's good for getting to a point where you can BEXP their lower stats better, but I honestly prefer the 2x experience from Paragon.

[Neofox]

Experience isn't exactly in short supply in Ike's story arc (which is where you get Blossom), so I don't see the big deal. Besides, if you use Paragon on a beorc unit, that unit can easily get overlevelled, and considering that RD encourages training a large amount of units at once, having a high-levelled EXP hog isn't going to be beneficial to the team...