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« on: April 01, 2008, 05:06:31 AM »

BoNam'oLafs

I just finished EU Radiant Dawn. Thus I might be half a year too late with this. But I didn't find anything about this yet. (The Search function isn't even capable of finding "Ike" on the Radiant Dawn Board though . . .)

The thing that made me curious was basically:
I NEVER got a normal Level-Up with no Stat-increase in Radiant Dawn. Strange, considering units seem to cap Stats very often in this game. Instead they start growing in lower Stats. (I'm talking about Haar and Gatrie getting +1 Magic every Level-Up.)

Please tell me that I'm not imagining things.

[EDIT:] To Clarify I'll give an example:
I transferred Stats for Haar. He easily managed to reach the Dragon Masters caps for HP, Str, Skl, Spd, Def and Res (with a little help from BEXP). The only not capped stats were Magic and Luck. I would have expected him to get several Level-Ups with no Stat increasing before he reaches Lv.20. But instead he always got at leats one point on every normal (i.e. NOT BEXP) Level-Up thus reaching the Magic cap and still growing Luck after that until he promoted to third tier.
And this basically happened to every unit. I simply never got a single Level-UP without +1 appearing.

[EDIT2:] @VincentASM: That's everything I wanted to hear.
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« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2008, 05:22:55 AM »

Wow. Your RNG must hate you for some reason if that's happening.

Honestly? It's probably all in the RNG. If anything else goes wrong, though, then you can always use BEXP once those stats are capped to bring up the other stats that your RNG doesn't want to bring up. If not, I honestly don't know what to tell you.
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« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2008, 05:58:26 AM »

I think you've misunderstood the topic creator :S

I think it's generally accepted that, during battle level ups, you always gain at least 1 stat. Unless everything is capped of course.

Also I don't know what happens if the last growth rate is 0% either (like the Str of some Herons)...
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« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2008, 10:25:30 AM »

I think you've misunderstood the topic creator :S

I think it's generally accepted that, during battle level ups, you always gain at least 1 stat. Unless everything is capped of course.

Also I don't know what happens if the last growth rate is 0% either (like the Str of some Herons)...
Sounds like it's about time for an AR to appear so we can test things like this.
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« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2008, 11:35:44 AM »

Really? At least, in the JP version, I know as a fact I've gotten a zero-point level up before. (I remember thinking to myself that the at-least-one-stat-per-level-up is false at that moment.)

On the other hand, I know that BExp can certainly get you stat ups in stats with 0% growths (Learne had 1 Strength in my last playthrough from BExp).
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« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2008, 11:43:20 AM »

It's possible that it might have been changed for the English releases. Before the English releases, I had never heard of the always-one-stat-up phenomenon from Japanese sites.
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« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2008, 12:05:00 PM »

Probably because not as many people had it as the US release?  Or do you go to forums with many people that have Japanese FE10?
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« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2008, 12:09:34 PM »

I assume that was a response to my post. Although I don't quite understand since I did state:

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...I had never heard of the always-one-stat-up phenomenon from Japanese sites.

So, yes, I did go to places with many Japanese players.
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« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2008, 04:03:36 PM »

Which I completely missed...    I probably stopped reading after japanese and immediately assumed games, or misread it somehow as games.
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« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2008, 05:24:09 PM »

I've addressed this question earlier when Edward got 5 level ups in a row with only magic, being his only stat that didn't cap.  Since his growth is 5%, I assumed there was this "at least one stat goes up if it can".
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« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2008, 05:28:54 PM »

I don't remember, but I think my Leanne grew Str from chanting...
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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2008, 12:20:16 AM »

I've also had my Nailah get nothing upon a level up in the Japanese version, but so far in the EU version, I've constantly had units get miraculous stat gains when they'd maxed almost everything.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2008, 04:16:12 AM »

BoNam'oLafs

Thanks for the replies.
I think this is a welcome addition. No useless Level-Ups anymore.
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