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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2008, 04:52:27 PM »

And what level are those averages coming from?  Because Leanne is Level 5 when you get her and I doubt you're A) going to be wanting to bump that much BEXP into her while fairly giving others BEXP and B) you're getting her to that high a level.
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« Reply #21 on: April 11, 2008, 04:56:49 PM »

Highest levels, although level 35 averages are pretty much the same aside from each losing a couple points in each of their stats (aside from Leanne, who will still have her magic and luck capped, and Rafiel, who will still have resistance capped).

And you're generally not going to train Leanne unless you plan to use her long-term, in which case, you will indeed do what you can to help her level. I admit she's hardest to raise, but we're not arguing about that, we're arguing about her durability.
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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2008, 05:04:58 PM »

Which is near non-existant because she's hardest to raise throughout.  In order to keep everything fair, at best I'd pump about 15 levels of BEXP into her (10 levels for the brothers) and then she's getting another 3 or 4 from maps (at the very best) so she's still very, very frail.  Reyson and Rafiel are also made of glass but can at least take a hit.
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« Reply #23 on: April 11, 2008, 05:13:57 PM »

If you've already decided which heron you've going to use, why put BEXP into the others? With 71 units and only ~12 that can go into the final chapter, it's best put all your BEXP into the units that will end up there, since they'll get the most use.
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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2008, 05:25:05 PM »

By "even use" I mean sharing BEXP with other units as opposed to other Herons.  You really don't have that much BEXP to kill in this game on normal or hard.  Especially Hard.
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« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2008, 05:47:31 PM »

I don't see why... Ignoring that the best characters usually don't even need the BEXP boost to be good, as long as you finish chapters relatively swiftly and don't use it on units you don't plan on using long-term, you should have a decent amount by the end of the game. Moreso if you allow yellow Ally units to do some of the fighting, as the game has politely provided you with plenty to fight with in parts 2 and Micaiah's chapters of part 3 should you not want to use most of the characters from each of their personal story arcs (since any EXP yellow units get is dumped into your vat of BEXP).
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« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2008, 05:54:31 PM »

Best characters like Haar and Ike need BEXP to bring up their speed so they can double later on.  Soren needs it to build his Speed up as well, Micaiah with Speed, Sothe with Speed (30% speed growth ), Oscar with Strength, etc.  And a bunch of other characters need the BEXP to build up an important stat too; one that doesn't typically grow to be that high.  Those are off-hand examples, there are more out there.

Laguz units have more use with BEXP.  Their growths are average or low for the most part, so pumping them with BEXP is not a bad idea either.

From what I recall of calculations, I probably an over-exaggerating how much BEXP you have to kill; I recall quanta calculating about enough BEXP for 70-80 levels on hard so about 120-130 on Normal.  Though, for me I tend not to have much to spare since I bring EXP up to 99 if they don't have any stats capped, therefore I much rather go with Reyson in the final chapter.  But I think we've gotten a bit off topic lol
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« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2008, 09:10:32 AM »

Eh? I had plenty of BExp to level Learne up to level 40 (this is JP Hard, by the way), as most of my other units were already high enough of a level that they really didn't need the BExp (and, I was too lazy to get everyone to cap everything when their stats were plenty high enough to rampage through the final chapter). I guess it somewhat helped that I leveled so few units per chapter in part 4 (Micaiah, Sothe, Wayu, Sanaki, Sigrun; Ike, Senerio, Mist, Nephenee, Heather, Vize; Elaice, Laura, Jill, Stella; almost completely ignoring the others), so they each got a lot of combat experience.

(Also, seeing as Learne's total growths add to less than 300...)


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« Reply #28 on: April 21, 2008, 01:43:23 PM »

116,550 BE for all of hard mode assuming you get the absolute maximum. Getting Leanne from level 5 to level 30 with BE (25 levels of it and skewed towards lower levels to minimize BE spent) costs about 32,000 BE. That's ridiculous (over 1/4 of your BE... no thanks), and she still has to gain 10 levels normally to reach level 40. And that's not ideal for min maxing either...

Just because it's possible doesn't mean its negative repercussions should be largely ignored (Ashera/Dheginsea/Sephiran etc. have good stats, min-maxing to  fight them is worth way more than having Leanne instead of another heron who would be just as useful or moreso at the same level and wouldn't take away so much BE). Having to use 1/4-1/3 of your total BE to get to 40 (assuming 10 levels of natural growth) which Reyson will probably get much closer to naturally given his 10 higher starting level and more playtime, is a massive disadvantage to using Leanne in the final chapters.

Disclaimer: She's still a good character for the missions she's in and doesn't directly compete with her brothers until the end, so I see no reason to think of her as bad. Just too glass-like.

EDIT: Reyson would probably still need several levels of BE to hit level 40. I meant that he's not unlikely to hit near level 30 naturally prettily easily, whereas getting Leanne to Reyson's base level is already probably going to cost you BE and getting her to 30 or higher is gonna cost you a ton.
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