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« on: April 16, 2008, 01:45:18 PM »

Reyson, Leanne, and Rafiel are descended from Lehran.

Sanaki and Micaiah are descended from Lehran.

That means that Lehran must have had a heron wife before he married Altina... right?
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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2008, 01:59:15 PM »

Where does it say the herons are descendants of Lehran?
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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2008, 02:42:43 PM »

Volke mentions it at the end of chapter 19 in FE9. "Lehran was one of the heron clan, an ancestor of our Prince Reyson..."
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2008, 06:14:43 AM »

Volke mentions it at the end of chapter 19 in FE9. "Lehran was one of the heron clan, an ancestor of our Prince Reyson..."
I think it means something else(uncle,ect.) because isn't there the heron king lozoriah(sp?), who is rafiel,leanne and reyson's father?
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2008, 08:31:47 AM »

I'm not sure whether to take this as a joke topic or not...Lehran IS a heron.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2008, 10:35:15 AM »

Volke mentions it at the end of chapter 19 in FE9. "Lehran was one of the heron clan, an ancestor of our Prince Reyson..."
It could just mean they're related. They don't have to be direct descendants for him to be their ancestor.
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2008, 11:10:23 AM »

I'm not sure whether to take this as a joke topic or not...Lehran IS a heron.
It's asking if Lehran had a Heron wife before Altina because it's mentioned that the Herons have descended from Lehran.  It's not questioning whether or not he is a Heron.
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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2008, 03:33:13 PM »

I think it means something else(uncle,ect.) because isn't there the heron king lozoriah(sp?), who is rafiel,leanne and reyson's father?

Yes, Lorenziah is their father, but Lehran was their great-great-etc.-grandfather, according to Volke. The two statements are not mutually exclusive.

Those weren't his exact words, of course; he said "ancestor", but according to Merriam-Webster, an ancestor is "one from whom a person is descended and who is usually more remote in the line of descent than a grandparent."

I'm pretty sure that Reyson said something about having inherited Lehran's ability to contain the dark god with the galdrar, as well.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2008, 05:21:31 PM »

That was an innate ability of the heron clan from the start, not Lehran specifically. There could have been a heron prior to Lehran's existence, perhaps his parent, who gave birth to TWO herons, and that other sibling gave birth to Reyson's bloodline, thus leaving Lehran free to suckle on Altina. It never specifically said that he was the only heron, but this way, Lehran's blood iks indirectly in Reyson's.
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2008, 06:16:36 PM »

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We, that is, the descendants of Lehran, we have a gift... Through the power of the slumber galdr, we have the ability to suppress the chaotic energies of the dark god in the medallion. So even if a massive battle occurred, if it were in my possession, I might be able to...

If this power was the birthright of all Herons, then why did Reyson single out the descendants of Lehran?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the definition of "ancestor" excludes uncles or great-great-etc.-uncles, though. I know I wouldn't refer to my uncles and aunts as people from whom I'm descended, as I would say of my parents and grandparents.

Then again, Reyson did misuse the word by referring to Sanaki as Misaha's ancestor...
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« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2008, 06:07:49 AM »

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If this power was the birthright of all Herons, then why did Reyson single out the descendants of Lehran?

Anyway, I'm pretty sure that the definition of "ancestor" excludes uncles or great-great-etc.-uncles, though. I know I wouldn't refer to my uncles and aunts as people from whom I'm descended, as I would say of my parents and grandparents.

Then again, Reyson did misuse the word by referring to Sanaki as Misaha's ancestor...

The latter was a translation error.

Lehran was probably singled out because he was so well-known. He was a companion of the Goddess and it was his medallion that trapped the Dark God.

Sure, the original ruler of the Herons would have been a better example to use, but you never hear about any of the other original rulers in-game (except Altina, but she was a companion too!), which is saying something.
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« Reply #11 on: August 26, 2008, 09:36:44 PM »

They did mention that only the noble family (Rafiel,Leanne, Reyson) which is indicated by their white wings ((its been a few years since i've played FE9 so i'm somewhat going off of memory)) could sing a galdar that i cant remember at the moment . And volke did inquire that Reyson was decendant of Lehran. Plus in the second to last battle in Radient Dawn you can get each heron to talk to him (dont worry he wont attack them, same with micaiah) but he does talk to the herons as if they are relitives. And I believe the reason his wings are brown in the end is because of what he has done with Altina. The laguz parent does lose their power if they happen to concieve a child with a beorc. But yeah...I believe that there was a heron at first and then he went with Altina. Yeah...there are other possibilitys on how he could have lost his powers but its late and i dont feel like getting into it
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« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2008, 05:08:01 AM »

this was probibly said in another way, but Lehren could be branded like Michiah.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2008, 10:32:40 AM »

but lehran is full laguz, he has wings.
~cough~ Soren=real king ~cough~
Also, i maybe a little late, but lehran has brown wings/ not royalty
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2008, 10:54:22 AM »

this was probibly said in another way, but Lehren could be branded like Michiah.
This is not really possible if the first branded ever was Lehran's child with Altina.
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