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« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2008, 11:21:24 AM » |
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of the 3 social knights at the begining of book 2, I prefer Cecil, as she does pretty well until chapter 12 or something. her only downside is her HP, but she dodges a lot so it doesn't really matter. plus since you can acess a secret shop with promoting items in chapter 5, which has also an arena.....
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« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2008, 01:27:42 PM » |
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I didn't bother with bringing any of the 3 starting Social Knights in book 2 to the final chapter, but Cecil is probably the best one out of the 3, or at least she's the most usable one right off the bat.
For chapter 2 of Book 2, have Marth use his rapier on the Social Knights and make sure your archers are in position before luring out the Dragon Knights with Alan, as your Archers and Hunters are practically the only ones who can even damage those pesky Dragon Knights until you get Linda.
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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2008, 02:14:15 PM » |
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Yeah, Cecil is the best of the first 3, tough the other two are also good units but you should wait for Sirius and Kain. (Yes, that's right, Sirius is a prepromo and is godly) Huh, usually my experiences with Wendel weren't that good *shrugs* besides pre-promotes are usually never as good as one who is promoted right? I have plenty of cash so... besides you also get Rena a lot earlier (not that I don't value the input) 2 chapters isn't "a lot early". Durability and offense>>2 chapters, anyway. And Wendel level ups faster (staves and offense>>only staves) so he has better stats always. And Rena's durability doesn't get better than Wendel's, even at 20/20
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2008, 12:28:34 AM » |
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Yeah, Cecil is the best of the first 3, tough the other two are also good units but you should wait for Sirius and Kain. (Yes, that's right, Sirius is a prepromo and is godly)
2 chapters isn't "a lot early". Durability and offense>>2 chapters, anyway. And Wendel level ups faster (staves and offense>>only staves) so he has better stats always. And Rena's durability doesn't get better than Wendel's, even at 20/20
alright and sorry about that I think I got Wendel's chapter mixed up with someone else's (probably chapter 10 I think which is the one where you save Medea/Midia or however it's spelled) I noticed that Rena's HP never hit even 20 I just wish I'd know before raising her by the way what is the pro. item for that/those class/es the Bishop Ring right?
and alright Cecil it is..for now anyway Kain's one of the best in B2? I probably should have expected that and I've already heard the strangeness/awesomeness of Sirius
EDIT: amazing from chapter 2 to 3 they go from 3 Dragon Riders to 10 and it's just overall worse (pretty much in my try almost everybody else died then they killed Marth) anybody have any ideas or know of a good B2 walkthrough?
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2008, 04:48:46 AM » |
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Our very own FESS website has a book 2 walkthrough up. Some work needs to be done on it but its usuable. Anyway, this early on in the game the only hope you have against dragons is lure them with someone like Doga one at a time and use bow to take it down. This is probably why the game gives you so many Bow users this early on. You also have a mage that can be used too.
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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2008, 11:27:04 PM » |
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I'd suggest baiting the eastern Dragon Knights one at a time with Marth, attack with an Archer to put them on low HP and finish with Linda. She needs a bit of experience to catch up to Marth and whatever Cavalier you're using anyway. The ones on the mountain won't move, you will need Katua or Paola to kill them with a Silver Lance.
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2008, 12:17:28 AM » |
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rectification: you will only need Paola as she has about 3x the str of your other character
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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2008, 04:56:28 AM » |
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I'd suggest baiting the eastern Dragon Knights one at a time with Marth, attack with an Archer to put them on low HP and finish with Linda. She needs a bit of experience to catch up to Marth and whatever Cavalier you're using anyway. The ones on the mountain won't move, you will need Katua or Paola to kill them with a Silver Lance.
I've tried baiting but at least 3 end up coming down and I'm not able to finish them all in 1 turn Then by next turn the last few come down to trash my team plus I can't immediately send Paola because I need someone to kill the thief headed for the village Julian is in maybe I'm just moving Marth clumsily? *sighs* Book 2 is Hard
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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2008, 05:24:19 AM » |
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I deal with them by equipping Linda with Resire and putting her in to the range of 3 of the Dragon Knights on one of the forests to her right, then finish them with my Steel Bow user and maybe Katua with the Silver Lance while Paola sits in the range of another Dragon Knight on the other side of the map.
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2008, 05:39:36 AM » |
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I deal with them by equipping Linda with Resire and putting her in to the range of 3 of the Dragon Knights on one of the forests to her right, then finish them with my Steel Bow user and maybe Katua with the Silver Lance while Paola sits in the range of another Dragon Knight on the other side of the map.
Alright that worked thanks!  But what about all those reinforcements that are coming out the forts that were making their way over to my group? They've almost killed Cecil/Cecile. (No thanks to Marth beginning to wear out.) EDIT: Cecil/e has left the building Time to retry
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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2008, 10:54:46 AM » |
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Alright that worked thanks! But what about all those reinforcements that are coming out the forts Generally those can be handled by moving Julian and Paola on them, this will only make 1 come out which is normally manageable until the rest of your units get there.
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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2008, 11:26:02 AM » |
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Sorry if this message is a little late been a bit busy anyway I'm now on Chapter 5 and doing badly I might add mainly because of trying to get Ricardo I try sending Julian after him but he never can seem to catch up to Ric. (besides that then puts him in the middle of the battlefield and every enemy goes to kill him)
Essentially I need help on: * Getting Ricardo * Not getting Julian or once he is recruited Ricardo killed (for that matter not getting any killed but they're the main focus) * Not getting fried or shot to death by enemy Mages and/or George and his squad
Oh right and back in Chapter 3 I heard if you got Julian to search the castle or something you could get Iote's Shield.... If it's true then I missed it what does it do and should I have gotten it?
P.S. Out of personal experience Chapter 4 wasn't that bad my main problem at first was trying to keep Oguma and the munchkins know as Yubello and Yumina alive and keeping that thief south of your main group's starting point from wrecking the village but found some good solutions if anyone is interested In my strategy to beating C4 I could probably get it written up in about 2-5 days (I've already got most of the base thoughts down) though considering how I've been getting help from people that have very likely BEATEN B2 I'm not sure if anyone would even find it useful (I've also got Chapter 1 and 2 down though they're still subject to a few edit and I'm working on 3)
I feel a little bad honestly just asking for help and I (eventually) plan to write a walkthrough for both Books anyway (though Book 2 will take considerably more time I plan to try once more after my initial playthrough without asking for help) Book 1 is going nicely and that one I don't really need help on though another playthrough is still planned at some point (I wanna make sure I've got things well figured)
hmm... Thinking about it a little more where would be a good place to write a walkthrough? (Sorry if it's a stupid question but I figure recommendations are good oh and if you say here you'd have to tell me how)
And I apologize if my writing is a little sloppier than usual in this post
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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2008, 12:05:13 PM » |
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George's snipers do not move and only attack once you are within their range, so there shouldn't be much to worry about there as they're pretty out of the way. The way to get the Libro staff is to secure the rest of the map and have the sisters kill the priest and have Marth seize the gate on the same turn.
Ricardo... Ricardo I kind of just ended up killing most of the time, however I noticed if you damage him so he is low on HP, instead of going north he will go south towards the 3 forts on the island, putting him in Julian's range (but I still killed him...)
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« Reply #33 on: August 22, 2008, 12:19:03 PM » |
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Sorry if this message is a little late been a bit busy anyway I'm now on Chapter 5 and doing badly I might add mainly because of trying to get Ricardo I try sending Julian after him but he never can seem to catch up to Ric. (besides that then puts him in the middle of the battlefield and every enemy goes to kill him)
Essentially I need help on: * Getting Ricardo * Not getting Julian or once he is recruited Ricardo killed (for that matter not getting any killed but they're the main focus) * Not getting fried or shot to death by enemy Mages and/or George and his squad
Oh right and back in Chapter 3 I heard if you got Julian to search the castle or something you could get Iote's Shield.... If it's true then I missed it what does it do and should I have gotten it?
The Iote Shield negates effective damage bonuses from weapons being used to attack the unit holding the Iote Shield. So, for example, a flyer holding it won't get massive damage from a bow or Chiki holding it while transformed as an Ice Dragon getting heavily damaged from Fire Magic and Fire Breath. For getting Ricardo, I modify the order of the units so that Julian is at the closest as he can be to Ricardo. You do this by highlighting some units, but not others, on the the selection screen and then going back to the initial menu. Alternatively, you can send a flyer to block the bridge or just have Sirius solo it against the Social Knights and outrun Ricardo. You can try to minimize the damage dealt by the Social Knights by positioning your more durable units in a straight line so that one unit does not get swarmed by them.
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« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2008, 05:18:41 AM » |
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Turn 1 recruitment is the easiest way arond the problem that I found (I don't like playing games with the AI). Which as St. Pius X said requires you to experiment blinding with the starting formwation.
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« Reply #35 on: August 30, 2008, 07:57:06 AM » |
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I know I'm a little late to the "which starting social knight is the best", but I think Cecil's getting a bit to much praise, yeah she's really strong, and she gets the most use out of the lady sword early game (IMO), however her def is awful, only 10% growth (if SF is accurate), even if she gets to lvl 20/20 she's only going to average about 12.6. I know you can give her a few stones to increase her growths, but that can be given to anyone to fix a few weak spots. Also I'd like to point out that Rody (though I've yet to do the math on him yet) is going to be far more well rounded once he gets a few levels to catch up. Luke is trash though, no reason to use him when Kain has better or equal growths in every area, and I've also not done out the math, but I'm pretty sure Luke will also have lower stats then Kain when Kain joins up (assuming you didn't give Luke massive favoritism/arena abuse).
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