FE9 Tier List

[Swordsalmon]

Assuming Hard mode, with maximum BEXP. In order, too.

Epic:
Nealuchi
Nedata

Top:
Titania
Oscar
Boyd
Jill
Tanith
Reyson
Kieran

High:
Marcia
Makalov
Mist
Ike
Astrid
Mordecai
Zihark
Ilyana
Brom
Rhys
Soren
Volke

Mid:
Sothe
Devdan
Tormod
Nephenee
Stefan
Lethe
Muraim
Calill
Gatrie
Haar
Tauroneo
Geoffrey
Largo

Low:
Mia
Shinon
Ulki
Janaff
Ranulf
Elincia
Nasir

Botton:
Ena
Bastian
Lucia
Rofl

Changes?

[Neofox]

There really a need for a tier list in an RPG? Especially since we're talking about FE9, as any character can be used in this game and average well enough to do at least decently if not well in the final chapter.

[Swordsalmon]

It's fun to debate who's best and who's the worst in any game.

[Lord Fuckboy]

...  why is Sothe above Volke >_>

Sure Sothe doesn't cost 50G per chest, but the surplus money you get and the fact that Volke's statistically better makes me wonder what exactly he has over him.  And Volke is versatile for one more chapter, and his bases allow him to steal more items due to better Strength and Speed.  No matter what the argument is, I cannot grasp why Sothe would be better off the top of my head.

Other than that, I agree with Neofox.  I'm completely burnt out with debating FE.

[Neofox]

Other than that, I agree with Neofox.  I'm completely burnt out with debating FE.

I wouldn't say I'm "burnt out" so much as "don't really think tiers really work in this genre".

In stuff like fighting games the characters always play the exact same way (barring game patches), so it's easy to tell who is better than who. However, in a game like FE where units get stronger, a tier list is rather meaningless since you can train up more or less any unit to make them usable (not to mention the fact that FE9 is arguably one of the most balanced games in the series).

[UchihaHunter]

Is this list serious?  Makalov above Ike?  Makalov above Soren?

...


Rhys above Soren?!??!?!?!

[Mini Nephthys]

I second the 'joke' vote.  I don't do tier lists, but things like Brom above Gatrie raise my suspicions.

Plus, while I agree that Nealuchi is awesome...

[Lemurian]

Wow, last list I saw had Boyd far lower that he is now.

Wait...Astrid above Soren?!

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

Good grief, what is it with people and tier lists these days? If you're going to post one, at least do everyone a favor and explain why you placed everyone where they are.

Also, Rolf on the bottom-tier = epic tier list failure.

[Charliecane]

Tier lists are kind of pointless for single player games that don't give you an award for playing "better".

Anyway, why is Brom so much higher than Gatrie? They have more or less the same stats. And Shinon being above Rolf makes no sense at all. Shinon is barely usable when he comes back.

[UchihaHunter]

I'm pretty sure the reasoning behind Brom > Gatrie revolves around availability and the fac that you can use the Knight Ward on Brom to much greater effect than with Gatrie.  As far as Shinon > Rolf, my guess is Early Game utility > Mid-to-late Game usefulness?  Truth be told, Shinon's like your only reliable ranged fighter for a bit, since Soren's still too underleveled.  By the time Rolf is useful, you can just use Captain Hit-and-Run Astrid, and you already have Wind Magic, Javelins, and Hand Axes

[Lord Fuckboy]

Just some random thoughts here from another glimpse...

UchihaHunter:  supports, and Brom has an overall better chance at being better later in the game due to more potential to use said Knight Ward.  So, that's only apart of it.
Not to say Gatrie isn't valuable early on, though.

Shinon > Rolf is also centric around the fact that Bow users are already pointless (think:  the Paladin topic that degenerated into "Why do Snipers suck now") because of their inability to attack on enemy phase...  Astrid's obviously exempt because of mountedness and Paragon.
Regardless, I don't think Lucia > Rolf because Rolf can actually setup some kills early on (IIRC he doubles some of the pirates) or even steal them, which is much more useful than Lucia's...  lack of anything.  Other than Earth support.

In which case, I don't think another unit's usefulness should have a bearing on another unit's usefulness.  If we're judging, we should keep it to an individual level as opposed to a comparative level...

Makalov above Ike has to do with the fact that he's a Paladin, but I don't agree with Makalov or Astrid above Ike.  Astrid is a bit too weak and comes in mid-way through, much like Makalov; Ike's been around since the beginning and stuff like that.  I would put Ike above Boyd if anything...  And Tanith below Jill, because Jill's been around longer than Tanith.

EDIT:  While we're at it, Stefan > Lethe.  Lethe is okay until the endgame, where she's merely average.  Stefan comes in with powerful stats and can easily max them out; his Speed cap is 30 afterall, and his Strength cap is 24.  He can do some good damage, even if his Luck is a little low...  the fact that Lethe isn't as good as Stefan in the endgame (and he completely destroys Lethe from the get-go) really does warrant him going above her.

I'd like to note that Lethe is also weak to Fire magic, even if Mages aren't particularly prevalent.

[Lord Kratos]

As much as I'm a Tanith fan, she lacks the offense and early joining of everyone in top tier (except Reyson). Down to high.

Kieran up to top.

Mordecai, Brom, Illyana and Rhys down to mid. Nephenee and Muarim up to high. Mia down to low.

I disagree with a lot of the placements between characters of the same tier, but I won't bother with that. I don't rly debaet FE extensively anymore.

[Swordsalmon]

...  why is Sothe above Volke >_>

Sure Sothe doesn't cost 50G per chest, but the surplus money you get and the fact that Volke's statistically better makes me wonder what exactly he has over him.  And Volke is versatile for one more chapter, and his bases allow him to steal more items due to better Strength and Speed.  No matter what the argument is, I cannot grasp why Sothe would be better off the top of my head.

Other than that, I agree with Neofox.  I'm completely burnt out with debating FE.

The items Volke can get in Chapter 10 aren't that useful, though. Just the Short Axe is worth anything. Sothe gives Astrid a great B support. Also, regardless of either character's Strength, Volke and Sothe can still steal Staves, while most other weapons will likely be unable to be stolen (Almost every enemy equips a single weapon, and have pretty high Strength, while neither Theif can). But either way, Theif utility is near-impossible to judge. I'm not sure where to put them.

Is this list serious?  Makalov above Ike?  Makalov above Soren?

...


Rhys above Soren?!??!?!?!

Makalov is a wonderful character. Gets the best class in the game, an excellent Astrid A, incredible stats, and Axes upon promotion. His only problem is having a fairly bad joining situation, but then he's awesome after like, one or two levels. Doing much better than Ike ever can, and definatly better than Soren's non-existant durability and not so great offense.

Healer utility is better. <3

Wow, last list I saw had Boyd far lower that he is now.

Wait...Astrid above Soren?!

Boyd has the best offense in the game, and is pretty awesome for the entire game.

Paladin, Elite, and an actual A support>Soren.

Anyway, why is Brom so much higher than Gatrie? They have more or less the same stats. And Shinon being above Rolf makes no sense at all. Shinon is barely usable when he comes back.

Though it's been addressed already, but Brom has a better Speed base and is doubling much faster with Knight's Ward. Gatrie is overleveled before leaving, and doesn't gain many levels, so he's underleveled at rejoin. Brom also has some great supports in Zihark A, Boyd B, giving needed Avoid and some extra Attack.

Shinon is very useful for the first couple chapters, since Provoke is luring the enemies in while the others can kill them. Also, he can weaken with the Iron Bow. Rofl is quite literally a hindrance for each chapter.

Regardless, I don't think Lucia > Rolf because Rolf can actually setup some kills early on (IIRC he doubles some of the pirates) or even steal them, which is much more useful than Lucia's...  lack of anything.  Other than Earth support.

In which case, I don't think another unit's usefulness should have a bearing on another unit's usefulness.  If we're judging, we should keep it to an individual level as opposed to a comparative level...

Makalov above Ike has to do with the fact that he's a Paladin, but I don't agree with Makalov or Astrid above Ike.  Astrid is a bit too weak and comes in mid-way through, much like Makalov; Ike's been around since the beginning and stuff like that.  I would put Ike above Boyd if anything...  And Tanith below Jill, because Jill's been around longer than Tanith.

EDIT:  While we're at it, Stefan > Lethe.  Lethe is okay until the endgame, where she's merely average.  Stefan comes in with powerful stats and can easily max them out; his Speed cap is 30 afterall, and his Strength cap is 24.  He can do some good damage, even if his Luck is a little low...  the fact that Lethe isn't as good as Stefan in the endgame (and he completely destroys Lethe from the get-go) really does warrant him going above her.

I'd like to note that Lethe is also weak to Fire magic, even if Mages aren't particularly prevalent.

I must disagree. Rofl can double those Pirates, but they are all equipped with Hand Axes, which destroy Rofl. It's near-impossible to set up any kill for him, as even with Rofl's Bow, he can't deal more than about 0-5 damage per turn. Trying wastes valuable Turns, so trying to feed him kills results in a loss of BEXP.

On the other hand, Lucia joins with a Silver Sword. She at least has some offensive potential with an A in Swords and the critical bonus.

Astrid and Makalov both dominate after about a chapter or two of being deployed. Ike is alright against early Brigands, but loses a ton of worth during Chapters 3-8, because so many enemies are Lance-users that Ike has bad offense against (Especially with the single Steel Sword you have at this point, the sword lowers his AS anyways, and Regal Sword has but 40 uses). Afterwards, he's just average until promotion. Ike has the Attack and AS to two-round most enemies with Steel Sword, but he's not super-durable like Oscar and Titania, nor is he one-rounding alot of enemies like Zihark, Boyd, and Brom.

For raising Astrid, very few enemies start attacking until near the end of the chapter. The reinforcement Ravens can't be doubled by most characters, so Astrid gains massive experience by finishing them off. Even just by attacking, she gains 30 experience due to Elite.

Makalov comes in a chapter with tons of Bandits and Axefighters. Massive growths help, too.

Agreed with the rest, and will change.

As much as I'm a Tanith fan, she lacks the offense and early joining of everyone in top tier (except Reyson). Down to high.

Kieran up to top.

Mordecai, Brom, Illyana and Rhys down to mid. Nephenee and Muarim up to high. Mia down to low.

I disagree with a lot of the placements between characters of the same tier, but I won't bother with that. I don't rly debaet FE extensively anymore.

Well, Reinforce aids more than anyone else can at joining. She deserves at least Top for now.

Meh, I'll go raise him.

Mordecai has incredible offense and the best supports in the game. Ilyana A, Mist B is incredibly fast and gives +3 Attack and +5 Defense. Best Laguz by far.

Brom is good upon joining and has good overall stats. Very useful wall and tank, and makes Zihark that much better with +15 Avoid from their supports.

Ilyana has great supports to make up for any problem. Modecai A, Zihark B gives +4 Defense and +15% Avoid. Also, she doing offensively well after promotion by using Elthunder without AS loss.

Eh, Nephenee, while has good end-game averages, suffers too much from a mediocre joining situation and lack of supports or a good class.

Rhys is the sole healer for a while and is a potential support for Kieran.

Muraim…well, he joins fairly late and again, no one wants him for supports.

And off for edits!

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

I must disagree. Rofl can double those Pirates, but they are all equipped with Hand Axes, which destroy Rofl. It's near-impossible to set up any kill for him, as even with Rofl's Bow, he can't deal more than about 0-5 damage per turn. Trying wastes valuable Turns, so trying to feed him kills results in a loss of BEXP.

Heaven forbid I lose a handful of BEXP to get a front-line-class archer in a few more chapters.

Honestly, this isn't so much a tier list as a list of personal favorites.

EDIT: Also, what is the deal with Nealuchi and Nedata? Surely you jest...

[Lord Fuckboy]

The items Volke can get in Chapter 10 aren't that useful, though. Just the Short Axe is worth anything. Sothe gives Astrid a great B support. Also, regardless of either character's Strength, Volke and Sothe can still steal Staves, while most other weapons will likely be unable to be stolen (Almost every enemy equips a single weapon, and have pretty high Strength, while neither Theif can). But either way, Theif utility is near-impossible to judge. I'm not sure where to put them.

Volke > Sothe and I guess bottom of High.  It's right about the place you already have it which seems fine.

Regardless, I'm sure there are plenty of Wyverns and Paladins out there with dual equips, iirc.  Even if that's nto the case, Volke can still hold himself better and requires a ton less handholding than Sothe, even if you remove Sothe's Skill (which is completely recommended because the output does not come close to justifying the cost).  And even if Sothe can support with Astrid...  well, his offense is still bad.  Volke's is also pretty bad, but at least he doesn't come in with completely poor bases like sothe does.

I must disagree. Rofl can double those Pirates, but they are all equipped with Hand Axes, which destroy Rofl. It's near-impossible to set up any kill for him, as even with Rofl's Bow, he can't deal more than about 0-5 damage per turn. Trying wastes valuable Turns, so trying to feed him kills results in a loss of BEXP.

I recall many of them with Iron Axes as well as Steel Axes.  I haven't played HM in a while, but I honestly don't recall any Hand Axes, and even then I don't recall them having much hit even on Rolf.

On the other hand, Lucia joins with a Silver Sword. She at least has some offensive potential with an A in Swords and the critical bonus.

Yeah but she doesn't do much damage in the process.  At least she has Earth affinity I guess.

Astrid and Makalov both dominate after about a chapter or two of being deployed. Ike is alright against early Brigands, but loses a ton of worth during Chapters 3-8, because so many enemies are Lance-users that Ike has bad offense against (Especially with the single Steel Sword you have at this point, the sword lowers his AS anyways, and Regal Sword has but 40 uses).  Afterwards, he's just average until promotion. Ike has the Attack and AS to two-round most enemies with Steel Sword, but he's not super-durable like Oscar and Titania, nor is he one-rounding alot of enemies like Zihark, Boyd, and Brom.

Wait how is he not one rounding as much as Zihark?  Other than DAing less, he will be on par with Zihark until Zihark promotes.  In which case, Zihark does less damage by the end anyway and the two of them are still one rounding as much as each other (Ike also has higher Strength...)

He is one rounding after promotion with a Steel Blade, and before promotion he is relatively durable and can one round Soldiers and Knights (Knights when he has the Regal Sword).
Only a Steel Sword?  He comes with four Iron Swords, although that varies from game to game apparently.  Ike does have a level lead over many characters that'll come into the mid-game (like Astrid and Makalov) as well as a stats lead.  In the end, they are better (can't be by that much, though, since even if mounts are amazing Ike gets a lot of evade from supports), but Ike helps you survive a lot during the early-game.
You're underestimating his pre-promotion worth.

For raising Astrid, very few enemies start attacking until near the end of the chapter. The reinforcement Ravens can't be doubled by most characters, so Astrid gains massive experience by finishing them off. Even just by attacking, she gains 30 experience due to Elite.

She still starts out weak, and really will not one-round very much even when she gains Axes, because of her average strength.  Even if she doesn't have to worry about melee combat, she's still stuck early on when she's weak and can't defend herself in any melee situation without a plethora of level-ups.  Ike's been around longer than Astrid has, and not only has a level lead but is helping you survive quite well before then, which imo deserves a spot above Astrid.

Makalov comes in a chapter with tons of Bandits and Axefighters. Massive growths help, too.

Except...  Makalov still requires handholding (although, BEXP with Knight Ward helps in his defense) in that chapter, and because of how ridiculously short that chapter can be (first playthrough:  four turns :awe:) by the time you recruit him, there isn't much left for him.

Rhys is the sole healer for a while and is a potential support for Kieran.

Rhys starts to lag late-game, Soren starts to shine.  Soren also provides early ranged combat, who other than Shinon is your only source as such, although Rhys is your only healer until Mist.
I'm somewhat torn on Soren vs Rhys, but to me it sounds more or less even; though, Rhys' offense is completely screwed due to lack of Strength to wield anything higher than Light, whereas Soren can at least use Elwind and Tornado, the latter with minimal speed reduction.  And when he promotes, he does make a decent secondary healer due to his Magic growth.

[Swordsalmon]

Heaven forbid I lose a handful of BEXP to get a front-line-class archer in a few more chapters.

Honestly, this isn't so much a tier list as a list of personal favorites.

EDIT: Also, what is the deal with Nealuchi and Nedata? Surely you jest...

Why bother taking forever to raise Rofl or use a ton of BEXP to make him somewhat useable, when everyone else can be raised without nearly as much pain and with actual stats. Rofl's growths and averages are atrocious; at his highest level of 20/10 (It's unlikely anyone is breaking 20/15 at their absolute best, and Rofl again is hugely underleveled), he has 38 HP, 19 Attack, 55 Avoid, 22 AS, 16 Def, and 15 Resistance. Even that far his offense and defenses are mediocre even with higher Bows. For the rest of the game, he's doing even worse, being two-rounded by a ton of enemies such as Myrmidons, Ravens, Social Knights (For lack of better term ). He can't even effectively damage Armour Knights until mid unpromoted teens, and Rofl's durability is again, always terrible. No one wants him as a support, either. Mist has better options everywhere, especially Jill A, Mordecai B. Rhys, assuming he's even deployed, wants Kieran and Titania. Marcia also wants to get Kieran A and has a good chance for Tanith B, especially with the epic bonuses. Shinon is aweful, and Tauroneo isn't very good and he's joins late. There's no reason at all for Rofl to be used. Terrible stats, terrible joining situation, terrible supports, and the worst class in the game.

This thing has been worked on for about half this year with many others. If it was a favourites list, Titania wouldn't be considered the best character.

That's a joke at the home forum. Every tier list must have a tier above Top, with the generally awesome characters up there. FE8 list has Gheb and Mcartney, for example.

Volke > Sothe and I guess bottom of High.  It's right about the place you already have it which seems fine.

Regardless, I'm sure there are plenty of Wyverns and Paladins out there with dual equips, iirc.  Even if that's nto the case, Volke can still hold himself better and requires a ton less handholding than Sothe, even if you remove Sothe's Skill (which is completely recommended because the output does not come close to justifying the cost).  And even if Sothe can support with Astrid...  well, his offense is still bad.  Volke's is also pretty bad, but at least he doesn't come in with completely poor bases like sothe does.
I recall many of them with Iron Axes as well as Steel Axes.  I haven't played HM in a while, but I honestly don't recall any Hand Axes, and even then I don't recall them having much hit even on Rolf.
Yeah but she doesn't do much damage in the process.  At least she has Earth affinity I guess.
Wait how is he not one rounding as much as Zihark?  Other than DAing less, he will be on par with Zihark until Zihark promotes.  In which case, Zihark does less damage by the end anyway and the two of them are still one rounding as much as each other (Ike also has higher Strength...)

He is one rounding after promotion with a Steel Blade, and before promotion he is relatively durable and can one round Soldiers and Knights (Knights when he has the Regal Sword).
Only a Steel Sword?  He comes with four Iron Swords, although that varies from game to game apparently.  Ike does have a level lead over many characters that'll come into the mid-game (like Astrid and Makalov) as well as a stats lead.  In the end, they are better (can't be by that much, though, since even if mounts are amazing Ike gets a lot of evade from supports), but Ike helps you survive a lot during the early-game.
You're underestimating his pre-promotion worth.
She still starts out weak, and really will not one-round very much even when she gains Axes, because of her average strength.  Even if she doesn't have to worry about melee combat, she's still stuck early on when she's weak and can't defend herself in any melee situation without a plethora of level-ups.  Ike's been around longer than Astrid has, and not only has a level lead but is helping you survive quite well before then, which imo deserves a spot above Astrid.
Except...  Makalov still requires handholding (although, BEXP with Knight Ward helps in his defense) in that chapter, and because of how ridiculously short that chapter can be (first playthrough:  four turns :awe:) by the time you recruit him, there isn't much left for him.
Rhys starts to lag late-game, Soren starts to shine.  Soren also provides early ranged combat, who other than Shinon is your only source as such, although Rhys is your only healer until Mist.
I'm somewhat torn on Soren vs Rhys, but to me it sounds more or less even; though, Rhys' offense is completely screwed due to lack of Strength to wield anything higher than Light, whereas Soren can at least use Elwind and Tornado, the latter with minimal speed reduction.  And when he promotes, he does make a decent secondary healer due to his Magic growth.

Alright, that sounds good enough.

Well, neither of them will be used in combat at all with those atrocious Knives, and the Paladins and Wyvern Riders have around 18-22 Strength. Volke at 15/3 can’t Steal from most of him with roughly 19 Strength. It’s doubtful Volke can promote at 20, by the way. No nearly enough fighting opportunities.

Meh, there might be a couple. It’s been a while since I played, too. Most of them have Hand Axe as their primary equipment, though.

Lucia’s still doing more damage than Rofl can ever hope to.

When Zihark joins, a level 11 Ike has the same Strength as Zihark does. Zihark’s doubling a bit more, and has an offensive lead for a while until promotion.

After promotion is Ike pretty good, but until then he’s just mediocre to average.

I meant he’s doing any good damage with the Steel Sword, sorry.

Astrid is gaining levels at about triple the rate everyone else is with Elite. Her offense grows huge very quickly. And after promotion, she can use a Steel Axe and one-round things while still doubling. Astrid becomes very powerful in only a chapter or two.

Not really. Makalov is two-rounding the Steel Axe Bandits, on par with most of the other characters. With Marcia’s excellent Movement, Makalov is likely to be recruited at Turn 2, giving him a couple turns to battle. The next chapter has many slow Steel Lance Loldiers that he two rounds with Steel Sword, and gets like, five-rounded by them, so durability isn’t an issue.

Rhys is promoting early than Soren due to Staff experience. Also, Soren is horrible until his mid-teens. One-rounded by many enemies and two-rounded by everything that doesn’t kill him outright. Soren’s Avoid doesn’t pick up until level 16, where he has about 52% (Which is still nearly as high as Rofl’s end-game Avoid ). Rhys’ early-game healing is much more important than Soren’s rather mediocre indirect combat. Even once Soren promotes, he can still use only Heal, while Rhys (And Mist ) can use Barrier and Physic to increase his levels even higher. I think Rhys’ usefulness for early and mid-game is better than Soren’s better late-game.

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

Why bother taking forever to raise Rofl or use a ton of BEXP to make him somewhat useable, when everyone else can be raised without nearly as much pain and with actual stats.

I don't have to take forever to make him somewhat usable. I can get him there in a few chapters, without a ton of BEXP (and really, if I am going to use it on him, he's a useful unit and I'm going to give it to my useful units, not my units that I'm going to ditch once someone better comes along). And heaven forbid if he can't *kill* an armor knight--he just has to survive against them. Oscar, Ike, and Soren can finish off the armor knights while he goes and stuffs everyone else full of arrows.

Besides, you don't get another real archer (sans Oscar if you feed him too much EXP at the expense of others) until... What, Astrid? I bench her right off the bat. Talk about a chapter where I don't have time to waste on leveling up people.

Also, stop trying to make love to the stats. There's more to the game than numbers on the status screen.

This thing has been worked on for about half this year with many others. If it was a favourites list, Titania wouldn't be considered the best character.

Then it's a list of average favorites. Same difference. Your list does not even reflect the general concencious at all, and more importantly, it's not taking play style into account. In fact, I'm not quite sure what it's taking into account... Any list with Largo above Rolf, and where Titania and Mist are above Ike just isn't going to stand up well.

That's a joke at the home forum. Every tier list must have a tier above Top, with the generally awesome characters up there. FE8 list has Gheb and Mcartney, for example.

Inside jokes are only funny when there's enough people present that will actually get them.

[Lord Kratos]

Well, Reinforce aids more than anyone else can at joining. She deserves at least Top for now.

nah, joining more than 10 chapters earlier and great offense>>reinforce.

Plus, her reinforcements hog experience.

Mordecai has incredible offense and the best supports in the game. Ilyana A, Mist B is incredibly fast and gives +3 Attack and +5 Defense. Best Laguz by far.

Supports don't fix his speed tough, and speed is necessary for a good offense, so...

Besides, Illyana is a so-so character, she's not always in play. That support only exists like half of the time.

Furthermore, if you want to efficiently use Mordecai (aka demi band, which makes him even slower btw) you deprive Muarim (the best laguz) from the demiband. Being good at the sake of making a better unit worse is not ideal.

Finally, right when he joins or when he doesn't have the demi band he is useless for at least half of the chapters (when he's untransformed)

Brom is good upon joining and has good overall stats. Very useful wall and tank, and makes Zihark that much better with +15 Avoid from their supports.

A low movement wall isn't very useful when the best characters are mounted, and when 90% of the cast has no problems living anyway. Plus, his offense is horrible for quite some chapters and average for lategame.

Ilyana has great supports to make up for any problem. Modecai A, Zihark B gives +4 Defense and +15% Avoid. Also, she doing offensively well after promotion by using Elthunder without AS loss.

Zihark would take Brom and Muarim and not Illyana. Her speed, movement and durability are not impressive.

Eh, Nephenee, while has good end-game averages, suffers too much from a mediocre joining situation and lack of supports or a good class.

hmm? her joining situation is almost the same as Zihark, who you put in high tier, and later on, Neph beats him.

Rhys is the sole healer for a while and is a potential support for Kieran.

Too bad he's made of toilet paper and Kieran will support Marcia and Oscar, who can keep up with him at the frontline. Kieran and Rhys have so different roles tha they are not gonna receive significant benefits if supported

Muraim…well, he joins fairly late and again, no one wants him for supports.

orly? He joins one chapter after Makalov, with way better stats, and Makalov is high tier. He joins 3 chapters earlier than Tanith, who you like to put at top. When Muarim joins, he owns everyone except Titania, and later one he remains as a very strong unit. He has a good support on Zihark and Largo also wants him if he's played

[SlippyToasterTrooper_UK]

Eh, Nephenee, while has good end-game averages, suffers too much from a mediocre joining situation and lack of supports or a good class.

What about Devdan then? Or does Tormod support, having better luck & using the Knight Ward* make him better?
*-Speed is where he really loses out.

I always thought these kinds of things were daft for a game where you use multiple characters at once. If the player has to relly on lists (maybe with numbers) to dictate who they should and shouldn't use in the game prehaps they are best to go to youtube and watch a playthrough of the game as they probably don't have the capacity to make their own decisions with regard to unit movement and the like either.

I'll enjoy using "Rofl" to give much needed weakening of enemies early on and you can enjoy getting Lucia stuck between a rock and a hard place.