Remake Sales

[Areth]

(the seven year-olds who play Brawl/Melee and worship Marth as god...)

Marth IS a god, isn't he?

Wait... that's Mars.

Anyway, do those who play Brawl like Marth or Ike more? Because Ike's presence in Brawl doesn't appear to have done much for sales of Radiant Dawn...

[caleb723]

Actually, I was thinking about that same thing.  Ike tends to be one of those controversial characters though- some like, some dislike, some despise.  Marth (from being one of the better characters in Melee) tends to be more liked as a whole.  Though, that's coming from listening to kids in my neighborhood talk about Brawl while I'm babysitting my cousins...

I guess I wasn't necessarily implying that because a character is popular in Brawl, it means their respective game will sell better.  I guess I meant that popular characters generate more interest in their games.

I already lost my thought process behind that argument; meh, who knows what I really meant by it... ><

EDIT: Let's find out.

[SlippyToasterTrooper_UK]

Anyway, do those who play Brawl like Marth or Ike more? Because Ike's presence in Brawl doesn't appear to have done much for sales of Radiant Dawn...

It isn't exactly clear from the box and most basic summaries that Ike is even in Radiant Dawn (I'm talking about the ones that don't go beyond part 1 in terms of plot...)...I also recall it being a couple of hours in before anyone [most likey Sothe] mentions Ike (if you piece the Nintendo channel stats together the average play session either mean people play 3+ hour sessions on average or that many people give up after a couple of hours and sell/return the game*)...plus the whole sequel to path of radiance thing might have put people off.

Personally I would say Marth is Marth and Ike is Roy.

*-At least going by the numbers on the UK Nintendo channel...

[Superbus]

Wait, I just saw RD's sales... It seriously did that badly?  I guess people were overly critical about it, the difficulty, lack of motion-sensitivity, (but, WHAT could possibly be added that could actually add to the FE series and not be a gimmick?) and lack of "better graphics," but still.  I liked FE on the big screen, but I think it's being accepted as better off on the handhelds.  I really hope they give us a chance; and, as Suichimo and Starwolf said, just mention Marth and the idiots (the seven year-olds who play Brawl/Melee and worship Marth as god...) will come running.

Now, about this Nintendo of America phone number...

Remember also that DS games are cheaper. At ABSOLUTE MOST, a DS game is going to run $40. Most likely, FE:DS, if it comes out in America, will cost $35 (or if you're in the UK, £50, because fuck, they'll pay 3X the going rate for games, right? *Watches Starwolf's head explode*). It's a lot easier to swallow $35 for a game than $50, especially on a system that has more hardcore players. Radiant Dawn was a great game that reviewed poorly by big sites that barely played it and had most of the complaints (permanent death? Death means death!? BAD!) written before the game was even played, and didn't even cater to the Wii's demographic; it's a prototypical, textbook, hardcore SRPG on a system that caters to those players' mothers. It's no wonder gamers avoided it in droves; the players they're looking for would have bought it on the DS, I think, and I also think FE:DS (which rebounded this past week on Japan's sales charts) will sell better than FE10 did. There's a larger installed base, and those gamers - who are currently playing FFIV, might I remind you; they're not pansies - are more into Fire Emblem type games.

[Gray]

Not to mention that RD was released two days after (or before, I don't remember) Super Mario Galaxy, so I guess it's reasonable which game got more attention and ads.

[camus the dark knight]

Does it beat out the first week of FE3 sales?

I can't remember the number, but FE3 sold more in the first week then any other Fire Emblem game (even 4).

[Charliecane]

Mystery sold a little over 340,000 units in its first week. New Dark Dragon's total sales so far don't even reach that high.

[SlippyToasterTrooper_UK]

Not to mention that RD was released two days after (or before, I don't remember) Super Mario Galaxy, so I guess it's reasonable which game got more attention and ads.

It came out the week before. Most reviews came out the week after. After reading gamespots 6.0 score (probably just reading the score but the reasons included lack of Mii support and the reviewer seeming not to know about battle saves) I can imagine most people putting Fire Emblem to the bottom of the pile as what to get with Mario.

I can't remember the number, but FE3 sold more in the first week then any other Fire Emblem game (even 4).

Wasn't it by that point the SNES was the gaming market in Japan (I know the Megadrive was never a contender but i'm not sure about the PC Engine and Gameboy), plus it actually had pretty extensive marketing involving some idol woman* which i'm sure a Japanese Wikipedia article will be able to name the woman. At the end of the day Idol+the gaming market>Figures+PS2 still in last throws+other systems+crappy Summer months.

*-At least according to this magazine (as you may have figured out from the filename its issue 16 of the UK SNES magazine Super Play, well known for its import and anime coverage)...and later on when they got a chance to play it thier words can pretty much be applied to today.

[arashisama without the decorative symbols. RANDOM ENOUGH?!]

Nae Yuuki... didn't think I'd see her named in a Western forum; I barely noticed her in Japan. Then again, I'm not really an idol/tarento/born-before-the-80's watcher. I don't get why so many Japanese CM's basically use a superstar and the newest song when the song doesn't even set the mood for whatever is being advertised.

I might just add that in Japan, Wii games cost 7350 yen, which is about $70 USD. Couple that with poor promotion and the fact that Western Wii-gamers are expecting hand-holding... sales take hits on both sides.

[hyde]

Nae Yuuki... didn't think I'd see her named in a Western forum; I barely noticed her in Japan. Then again, I'm not really an idol/tarento/born-before-the-80's watcher. I don't get why so many Japanese CM's basically use a superstar and the newest song when the song doesn't even set the mood for whatever is being advertised.

I might just add that in Japan, Wii games cost 7350 yen, which is about $70 USD. Couple that with poor promotion and the fact that Western Wii-gamers are expecting hand-holding... sales take hits on both sides.

Wii games are €50 over here, which is also approximately $70, and I can understand why most non-fans wouldn't want to just buy any appealing games.

[NeonZ]

This remake could have sold much more if it weren't for shortages. It has already dropped twice out of the weekly top 10 only to suddenly return due to a new shipment.

Considering the comments I've read about used games in Japan, that kind of thing could have really hurt this game's sale potential - as time passes, people buy more and more used copies, rather than new ones. Besides, right now is the slowest time of the year for game sales.

it's a prototypical, textbook, hardcore SRPG on a system that caters to those players' mothers. It's no wonder gamers avoided it in droves;

Radiant Dawn still ended up selling slightly more than Path of Radiance (In Japan, I have no idea about worldwide numbers) though, so its performance wasn't completely negative, especially considering that the game seemed to expect the player to care about the PoR characters and was harder than its predecessor.

[KiddoCabbusses]

Suddenly NeonZ's comment about shortages puts a new perspective on this - perhaps Nintendo didn't see what sales it was getting coming?

Also, while this strays from the topic a bit...

Nae Yuuki

This name has come up on my Satellaview research. Does anyone got any well-researched info on her? In particular I have some radio shows and Satellaview ROMs that reference her name.

[NeonZ]

If anyone is still interested, Famitsu numbers for 09/1 - 09/7

1. Rhythm Tengoku Gold (NDS) 46.000 [672.000]
2. Wii Fit (Wii) 27.000 [2.543.000]
3. Blue Dragon Plus (NDS) 25.000 [25.000]
4. Fire Emblem: Shin Ankoku Ryuu to Hikari no Ken (NDS) 16.000 [220.000]
5. J-League Winning Eleven 2008 Club Championship (PS2) 16.000 [129.000]

[Superbus]

I'm more worried about the fact that there's been no posts outside of this thread in three days.

[KiddoCabbusses]

Hm. It jumped to fourth place?

Does that merely -look- good, or is it like, actually good?

By that I mean like, is it just staying consistent in sales amidst a slow period, or did it actually get a sales jump? fff.

(EDIT:

I've decded to give it a check to comparet o the other games.

Wii Fit's been selling forever, it'll probably be in the top three perpetually.
Blue Dragon DS is new.
Therefore, the two comparisons I can make of note are J-League and Rhythm Tengoku. And J-League is pushing it since that's a PS2 game.

But either way, why Rhythm Tengoku is obviously overshadowing FEDS, this is actually fairly nice to see. The sales have tripled from around 5,000 to around 15,000 just when we thought it was gonna drop off.

We'll have to see what happens next, but there's a still a chance it could be a "steady seller" after all.)