Star The Clone Wars Wars

[Nightmare]

Finally, everyone crying about how this ruins Star Wars or something still hasn't heard of the Star Wars Christmas Special or, even worse, the Ewok films. *shudders* It's not like Lucasfilm just starting milking the series yesterday, and they were certainly doing it well before 1999. Honestly, I've always thought the entire series was inherently cheesy on some level. "But I was going into Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!" That line still makes me cringe.

Hey! Don't touch my Ewok movies!!! >:'0

I recall when I was far younger that on Sundays on the beach (family trip, and the beach is an hour away at most), we saw tv while at lunch. No cable meant national channels. One aired those movies from time to time . Awww... memories

Curse you DMA for getting me all nostalgic >:'0

[camus the dark knight]

I ended up taking a kid I know to it for his Birthday since he loves anything Starwars.

When compared to the real Starwars movies, it really will be a disappointment, but if you leave it be and stop trying to compare it to the normal movies, it isn't too shabby. Worth watching? If you like Starwars, you will probably want to rent it and check it out, since it's not that bad. But I don't recommend seeing it in the theaters unless you are a diehard Starwars fan.

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

Hey! Don't touch my Ewok movies!!! >:'0

I recall when I was far younger that on Sundays on the beach (family trip, and the beach is an hour away at most), we saw tv while at lunch. No cable meant national channels. One aired those movies from time to time . Awww... memories

Curse you DMA for getting me all nostalgic >:'0

You do realize that in years to come, people will get all nostalgic about this movie, right?

[Nightmare]

You do realize that in years to come, people will get all nostalgic about this movie, right?

Don't get my hopes down on humanity

And Ewok movie >>>> Clone wars. Even if I do remember getting bored at the movie . Thing is, it brings memories 

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

Thing is, it brings memories 

And, for better or worse, this movie will do the same for others.

[Nightmare]

And, for better or worse, this movie will do the same for others.

Don't justify your future comments!! >:0!!!


I wonder, how many people here would complain about another release of Star Wars and say Clone Wars was the shit XP

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

I wonder, how many people here would complain about another release of Star Wars and say Clone Wars was the shit XP

Give it about five or six years.

[Shaman_Artemis]

Give it about five or six years.

More like two.

[Nightmare]

Give it about five or six years.

We should make a bet!

I'll try not to lose

[Thunk00]

It is what it is. Everyone expecting Star Wars Episode 2 1/2 needs mental help. It was a pretty fun movie, and I found it to be better than most people say. That being said, no, it's all that great.

The models are interesting (hello, it's not meant to be realistic) and well done (sans Padme, who looks awfully manly), but the animation is touch and go at best. One scene will be fairly well done, and then in the next it looks like a dropout's demo reel. Also, what's the deal with the rock music? Seriously.

Sans the whole Hutt family thing going on, I like the story ideas, though they aren't all so well done. But then again, the concept of a padawan for Anakin just appeals to me, in part because I liked the way he was done in Episode III (an older, wiser Anakin that grew up from the once snobby brat in EpII, making for a nice contrast with his later alter ego). If they'd shaved about thirty minutes off the movie, it'd be all that much better.

All-in-all, better than the horrid Tartakovsky version (but then, so is the smut on the bottom of my shoes), and I'll probably follow the TV series for awhile to see if it's at least mildly enjoyable. Granted, this is coming from someone whose favorite movie in the series is Episode I, so make of it what you will.

I get what you're saying. I tried to enjoy the movie, not let my negative prejudice toward everything George Lucas has made since 1980 get in the way, but I had trouble doing that. Nearly everything about it seemed cheap to me.

Maybe it's the approach the writers are taking. I know that in the original trilogy, George Lucas' aim was to create a story similar to classical mythology. To me, the story of the Empire's downfall, with its archetypal characters and John Williams soundtrack, feels much more large-scale and 'important' than its rise.

The Clone Wars just doesn't have that feeling, rather it even more pronounced weaknesses. There is no reasonable explanation for Ziro the Hutt. If the movie didn't take itself seriously, it would be a pretty good parody.

Finally, everyone crying about how this ruins Star Wars or something still hasn't heard of the Star Wars Christmas Special or, even worse, the Ewok films. *shudders* It's not like Lucasfilm just starting milking the series yesterday, and they were certainly doing it well before 1999. Honestly, I've always thought the entire series was inherently cheesy on some level. "But I was going into Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!" That line still makes me cringe.

This movie isn't any better just because its mediocrity isn't unprecedented. If anything, the repetition makes it worse.

By the way, DMA, I'd be curious to learn why you like Episode I. The CGI is great, and I'm able to laugh at the Gungans' faces and the bigger fish line, but just about everything else in the whole movie is a pain to watch for me.

[SlippyToasterTrooper_UK]

Give it about five or six years.

I'd give it until the TV series its an advertisement for whats this? a profit making advertisement, surley you jest or a DVD/Blu-Ray release that adresses the flaws and destroys the originals just like Lucus like it.

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

By the way, DMA, I'd be curious to learn why you like Episode I. The CGI is great, and I'm able to laugh at the Gungans' faces and the bigger fish line, but just about everything else in the whole movie is a pain to watch for me.

Mostly because of the characters. In IV, V, and VI they never really move beyond Joseph-Campell-approved "archetypes". They're still archetypes in the first movie, but as flat as they still are, they've got more depth to them. It's also a more personal struggle.

In the other five movies we're treated to a grand, sweeping war... But we really don't care about anything but the war. This is especially true in A New Hope where the only reason we really cheer against the Empire is because Darth Vader and Grand Moff Tarkin are on their side. In Episode One, however, the conflict centers around a small group of characters that get caught up in the struggle. Although we care about the overarching war, we care equally about the characters taking part in it.

But these are just my thoughts. I do not expect people to subscribe to them.

[ZarricK]

Am I the only one who finds it odd that Anakin has his own padawan in the first place?

I mean, he wasn't a Master or anything. Even when the Emporer shoved him into the Jedi Council's ass, he still wasn't a Master.

To tell you the truth, the whole apprentice thing in general has become beyond bland, in my eyes.

Then again, it's not like this film was meant to be anything groundbreaking; Just something a bit cheaper to make, for a wider audience, and yet another way to milk out as much of the money out of the "Clone Wars" as possible.

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

Am I the only one who finds it odd that Anakin has his own padawan in the first place?

I mean, he wasn't a Master or anything. Even when the Emporer shoved him into the Jedi Council's ass, he still wasn't a Master.

No, you're not the only one, but for most people it's not because of his rank. Obi-Wan was not a Jedi Master, and yet he was given charge of Anakin. One only needs to be a Jedi Knight in order to take a padawan. In fact, as I recall, in order to become a Jedi Master one of the requirements is that you had to have successfully advanced at least one padawan to Jedi Knight status.

[Thunk00]

Am I the only one who finds it odd that Anakin has his own padawan in the first place?

I mean, he wasn't a Master or anything. Even when the Emporer shoved him into the Jedi Council's ass, he still wasn't a Master.

To tell you the truth, the whole apprentice thing in general has become beyond bland, in my eyes.

Actually, as a full Jedi Knight, Anakin is supposed to train at least one padawan before he can be promoted to Jedi Master, according to the lore. However, giving Anakin a padawan when even Obi-Wan is admitting doubts that he can handle it seems to go against the usual behavior of the Jedi Council. I have trouble imagining Yoda approving such a risk. They would have done better to make her Obi-Wan's padawan, as Obi-Wan originally suggests to Anakin, and just had the two young Jedi work together.

Update: It seems like you've beaten me again, DMA.

Then again, it's not like this film was meant to be anything groundbreaking; Just something a bit cheaper to make, for a wider audience, and yet another way to milk out as much of the money out of the "Clone Wars" as possible.

It was a conscious decision on the part of Lucasfilm to treat this bloated TV show episode like Episode II 1/2 without putting in the effort and investment required to make it that. Lucasfilm easily could have gone the other way, they have everything they need to make world-class films. Or they could have simply kept the Clone Wars as the pilot episode for the new show. But by choosing the path they did, they chose to create an inferior product that will always be compared to the standard of their other feature films. There's no excuse for the movie's poor quality.

[DMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMAMA JonnyJon]

It was a conscious decision on the part of Lucasfilm to treat this bloated TV show episode like Episode II 1/2 without putting in the effort and investment required to make it that. Lucasfilm easily could have gone the other way, they have everything they need to make world-class films. Or they could have simply kept the Clone Wars as the pilot episode for the new show. But by choosing the path they did, they chose to create an inferior product that will always be compared to the standard of their other feature films. There's no excuse for the movie's poor quality.

Personally, I think I would have thought less of them if they did create a true Episode 2.5, regardless of how good it is. The main series is over. Unless you want to go back and look at the fabled episodes VII, VIII, and IX, just stick to the EU, please.

[Thunk00]

Personally, I think I would have thought less of them if they did create a true Episode 2.5, regardless of how good it is. The main series is over. Unless you want to go back and look at the fabled episodes VII, VIII, and IX, just stick to the EU, please.

Hey, putting a whole other movie in the middle of the series would be a pretty typical thing for George Lucas to do, though.