Olwen and Eyrios

[Saaji]

Alright so this a two pronged topic, first  of these two characters which do you prefer and why? Second is there any story reason why you can't recruit both of them?

Because looking over the parts of the script for Thracia 776  Eyrios is just a petty guy who just wants to become a noble and is really simply convinced to join Leaf's group because of Karin's more or less mocking conversation with him.

I don't know Olwen's story too much besides that shes related to Reinhardt...which means she's a noble I reckon. However I dont see how having her in the players party would stop Eyrios from joining in any story related manner. When I played Thracia 776 a few years back I went with Eyrios because I thought he looked cooler but really knew nothing of his character or Olwen.

Now reading up the little dialouge he has and some of Olwen Eyrios is a funny guy in a somewhat pathetic manner, but I still think he's a pretty cool.. and Olwen I'm just indifferent to... so yeah I perfer Eyrios if that isnt obvious already.

[Charliecane]

I'm not sure if there's a logical reason for not being able to get both of them. My guess is it's just one of those one or the other recruitment situations ala Harken and Karel.

Anyway, I've only ever used Olwen, and I found her to be a pretty good character. Her personal weapons are great too. Dime Thunder is great when used with ambush, and the Holy Sword is handy for taking down magic users (especially Mage Knights). I really don't have any plans to recruit Eyrios in the future.

[Neofox]

I generally prefer Olwen for the reasons most others do: is on the team for longer, more personal weapons, and better magic stats (seeing as how this being a game where magic has a tendancy to dominate pretty well if used properly... though from what I hear most use mageknights for the mage part more than the knight part, anyhow).

I don't find either particularly impressive as far as personality goes, but then again most of the characters in Thracia tend to be kinda bland...

[Saaji]

Hmm... I suppose it could be like the Harken Karel situation... but its just odd as if that character choice you simply won't ever get to see both in on game since you meet them in situation that has two alternate paths but.. for some reason if  Olwen is in the party you can't recruit Eyrios at all... which is just strange.

I'm not surprised that Olwen is the more chosen choice  since he does have two personal weapons...also joining earlier helps her case. Stat wise Olwen definitely make a better MAGE Knight, while Eyrios seems to be a better Mage KNIGHT.  Since I tend to lean towards more physical units  Eyrios starting stats fit me more then Olwen... also they have identical growths.

I suppose the fact that Thracia is a side story more or less all the characters didn't really need to be fleshed out or anything.

[Brighton]

Lack of support conversations doesn't help the cast of Thracia 776 any.
It'd be nice if there were more for-the-hell-of-it conversations whenever you field a certain pair of characters. Kind of like the pointless "You're alive! So are you!" between Finn and Glade, or Othin and Tanya in Dagda's mansion.

On topic, Olwen wins this battle with her Dime Thunder, earlier joining, superior counter-critical, and support from Leaf.
Eyrios is the better front line fighter, but you shouldn't put mage knights in the front...

Olwen is also the second best Boltinger in the game, next to Sety who is the best mage period.

[dondon151]

Kind of an unrelated question, but do Olwen, Eyrios and Xavier really all have the same exact growths?

[Saaji]

Kind of an unrelated question, but do Olwen, Eyrios and Xavier really all have the same exact growths?

Well according the Serenes Forest yes, and apparently Galzus shares the same growth rates with them.

When I think about it I really didnt use to many mages aside Sety, Homeros, and Asvel.  and I dropped Asvel once he's personal tome ran out Sety I  used half because of the crazy Sety hype which he lived up to and Homeros just because he looked cool and had an interesting personality. [I happen to love drunks and flirt type characters ]

So when I use Eyrios I treat him as more of a knight variant  like axe/lance/sword knights and the magic is a bonus thing. That's how I envisioned mage knights but it seems im in the minority in ideas of how to use a mage knight.

 

[Mekkah]

I suspect that they may have planned the one-Mage-Knight-deal with the routes somehow, what with Kempf's return (and his relation to Olwen) in the chapter where Eyrios joins. But they probably scrapped most of it and then solved it this lame way.

Or maybe Mage Knights are just too awesome in this game.

[Brighton]

Mage Knights ARE too awesome in this game. In FE4, your mage knights were just another member of your 24 man army. Here, where deployment is limited, having someone able to use both physical and magical to good extent while riding a horse is very nice.
It's just that when you finally get Eyrios, you already have plenty of physical fighters whereas a Thunder mage comes in handy.

[Swordsalmon]

Sety who is the best mage period.

Asvel doesn't exist anymore?

But onto the subject, Olwn>Eyrios. He may have nice bases, especially the 40 HP, but Olwen has an awesome weapon and is benefitting the team for far longer. Also, her support with Fred is pretty decent for a few chapters.

Though I can't bring myself to kill Eyrios, so Sleep and capture.

[dondon151]

Well according the Serenes Forest yes, and apparently Galzus shares the same growth rates with them.

Yeah, but I was wondering if that was intended or a programming fluke.

[Saaji]

Perhaps its a base/generic growth rate they had in mind for player characters. To separate them from generic growths rate associated with the classes and npcs.

To be quite honest I agree Olwen is the better character, there's not really much Eyrios offers over her besides more solid bases, but he's bound to fail in being a mage comapred to her since he's starting magic is lower then Olwen who starts a few levels under him. Though I managed to get him to max out magic thanks to the scrolls... but with scroll abuse the personal weapon difference is pretty big.    Though he does have that sex Sunlight sword skill which is very helpful in making him a front line fighter.

[etellerannet7]

I always choose Olwen. First of all she's much easier to recruit, second I just hate Eyrios in every way. From the tiny bit of personality you see from him you see that he's selfish and feels bound to a meaningless honour system where takes distance from the people he should care about to be with the cool guys who're running the country. So I enjoy beating down his squad as quickly and brutally as possible 

[Peechu with a side of popcorn]

Eyrios looks a lot cooler, so Eyrios.