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« on: December 06, 2007, 01:05:26 AM » |
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When you level using Bonus EXP, do units only stat-up in 3 stats or is it random like it was in PoR?
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2007, 01:44:12 AM » |
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When you level up using BEXP, you get 3 stat gains. No more, no less (unless all but 2 or less stats are already capped, of course).
Naturally, this means you're best saving BEXP until your units are near level 20 and already have a stat or two in green.
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2007, 02:22:23 AM » |
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Does your BEXP from the 1st, 2ed, 3ed parts transfer over to part 4? Or do you lose the BEXP each time you move on to a new group, and never get it back?
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2007, 05:03:13 AM » |
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You get it back when groups come together, so yeah they transfer.
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2007, 12:52:56 PM » |
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If I recall correctly, Bonus EXP is now non-abusable, right? Also, isn't better for you to use Bonus EXP on Micaiah towards the end of her story if she isn't already at level 20?
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2007, 01:05:42 PM » |
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It's not abusable in the way it was in PoR, but instead now it's abusable by forcing lower stats to go up after a characters starts hitting their caps. Which I've heard happens alot in RD. Overall a better system which doesn't allow you to get RNG screwed with Bonus experience.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2007, 02:06:58 PM » |
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I honestly like PoR's BEXP system much better. Fixed 3 stats per level up killed most of my guys.  "YOU'RE LEVEL 16! WHY IS YOUR DEFENSE STILL 10? YOUR DEFENSE WAS 10 TWELVE LEVELS AGO!"  |
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2007, 02:40:31 PM » |
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>_> That's why you wait... If they have no capped stats, get them to 99 EXP, because you're likely getting more than 3 stats unless you're someone like Reyson or someone else with bad growths... Reyson caps almost all of his stats with B EXP...  B EXP is semi-abusable, still. If you have a good character without maxed stats, you can abuse B EXP to get bad stats up (it's still random which ones you get). |
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2007, 08:11:24 PM » |
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I totally abused the new bonus EXP system. When I read you would always get three stat gains in the BEXP screen I decided to usually just sit on my BEXP until the units had one or two stats capped. By the end of the game most of my units had at least 3 stats capped, and I think Edward and Sothe had six (not that that helped Sothe all that much). Nephenee with maxed strength, defense, skill, and speed was pretty sweet too.
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2007, 01:28:37 AM » |
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Does Bonus EXP from another army get transfered to other armies? Like for example, after finishing Elincia's army and going to Ike's and Elincia's army has 500 Bonus EXP, does it get transfered to Ike's' army? It does in Part 4, but does it from the first three parts?
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2007, 05:25:28 AM » |
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Does Bonus EXP from another army get transfered to other armies? Like for example, after finishing Elincia's army and going to Ike's and Elincia's army has 500 Bonus EXP, does it get transfered to Ike's' army? It does in Part 4, but does it from the first three parts? It doesn't get transfered until part four. Id est, the Greil Mercenaries cannot use Elincia's BEXP. |
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2007, 11:44:13 AM » |
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I honestly like PoR's BEXP system much better. Fixed 3 stats per level up killed most of my guys. "YOU'RE LEVEL 16! WHY IS YOUR DEFENSE STILL 10? YOUR DEFENSE WAS 10 TWELVE LEVELS AGO!" Yeah, I completely ruined Fiona with BEXP. I took me a while to realize that level ups with Bonus EXP and regualr EXP are different. |
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2007, 11:55:23 AM » |
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Wait, so if I have leftover BEXP from Michaiah's army, does that mean it won't be transferred to Elincia's army? Will it even remain when I get Michaiah's group back?
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2007, 11:59:02 AM » |
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You get it back when groups come together, so yeah they transfer. It doesn't get transfered until part four. Id est, the Greil Mercenaries cannot use Elincia's BEXP. Sigh. How's about reading? |
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2007, 05:38:28 PM » |
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I actually like the new system better than the PoR system. It prevents complete abuse (something I did a lot of in PoR to get Astrid to be great), but works well to help characters cap or near-cap stats that they don't normally cap. But the battle saves kind of ruin the 'No Abuse' part. You can abuse them to get an all stat-up level up, like with PoR's BEXP. It's pretty much a save-state. But if you're on Hard/Maniac, you don't have this problem. Yeah, I completely ruined Fiona with BEXP. I took me a while to realize that level ups with Bonus EXP and regualr EXP are different.
It's impossible to 'ruin' Fiona. But that's a discussion for another topic entirely. :X |
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2007, 05:45:14 PM » |
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Odd question, but when you use BEXP does it give all stats an equal chance to gain even though it will raise three no matter what. Lemme think of a better way to word it... Will it raise a stat more often if it has a higher growth, or no? Or the lovely third option, 'Nobody knows'.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2007, 06:04:19 PM » |
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Odd question, but when you use BEXP does it give all stats an equal chance to gain even though it will raise three no matter what. Lemme think of a better way to word it... Will it raise a stat more often if it has a higher growth, or no? Or the lovely third option, 'Nobody knows'. From what I read in other forums, it kinda does, but dunno the details. That's why it's hard to calculate averages, so we have to rely on gamefaqs for simple ones. |
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2007, 06:09:16 PM » |
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From what I read in other forums, it kinda does, but dunno the details. That's why it's hard to calculate averages, so we have to rely on gamefaqs for simple ones.
I'm sorry, but what now? It's not particularly hard to calculate averages. Especially because you don't have to factor in BEXP Level ups GoD-style. All you need are the growth rates and class caps. Unless you're trying to figure out what a character's stats will be if you use BEXP. |
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2007, 06:24:01 PM » |
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The only averages that we have are simple ones from gamefaqs, but I want my FEA...  And yeah, it is kind of hard now because of BEXP. You're definately using it one way or another, and that screws around with stats big time. You can make someone like Volug have good DEF, or make Illyana fast. |
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2007, 06:38:39 PM » |
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Concerning level ups and averages. I'm not quite certain, but this seems close to truth from my experience.
Even normal level ups seem to be limited to at least 1 stat up now. So if you have maxed out everything except for 1 or maybe even 2 stats, leveling that character normally would probably be better than pumping BEXP into them.
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