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« on: December 19, 2007, 11:55:48 AM »

I'm on Normal at 3-7, and my Ike's team is at 20/20/1, and my Micaiah team is at about 20/5-10.

I'm planning to use:
Ike (required) : Ragnell
Micaiah (required) : Thani + Ashera
Sothe (required) : Baselard
Sanaki (required) : Cymbeline
Kurthnaga (required)
Ena (required)
Edward : Alondite + Vague Katti + Caladbolg
Nolan : Urvan + Tarvos
Aran : Wishblade
Shinon : Double Bow
Calill : Rexflame
Soren : Rexcalibur
Ilyana : Rexbolt
Laura/Lehran : Rexaura + Matrona
Pelleas : Balberith
Tibarn
Reyson/Rafiel?

But so far, I've also been using:
Boyd
Mist
Titania
Geoffery
Haar
Heather
Elincia (well, not yet, but... >_>)
Astrid
Brom
Ulki

Should I drop them now and concentrate ont he ones I'm going to use or keep them around? I'm afraid I can't reach 20/20/20 with my final team if I do, though...
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2007, 01:04:59 PM »

It really all depends on you; theres no real need to get to 20/20/20; most chars will cap stuff by 20/20/15 in any case, but here's my thoughts:

No wyverns? I take it you didn't use Jill at all? If Haar's good, then you can bring him, since Wyverns are awesome in FE10.

Do you really need all of the Archsages? Personally I'd throw the worst one out unless you really feel the need. Sanaki can use the Rexflame in theory (though its true Cymbeline is better for her with her pants strength).

I'm also not really a fan of the Saint class. Laura can cap everything with her ace growths, true, but then her caps are quite low. Its better to have a mobile healer. Of whom Elincia is best; since she can fight physically well with 25-30 STR and Amiti (Mist usually can't unless she gets lucky and has pwn strength; its a shame Florette doesn't work off MAG). Also, Matrona staff is over the top; you only need Fortify, which is S. Light Magic is also meh; and giving the Rexaura to Micaiah is probably a good idea since she needs the +3 DEF.

From Astrid, Geoffry, Titania; pick your best. Astrid turned out really well for me, and so did Titania. I picked Astrid for my Final team since I already had loads of axe users (I had Jill and Nolan already, but my Shinon sucked for some reason). It is good to have a Pally along since their movement rocks.

Finally, Eddie seems weighed down with all of his unique swords! You have no other good Sword users?
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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2007, 08:22:53 PM »

Well, I'd like to get to 20/20/20... Even on Easy I only had 1 or 2... :X

I only used Jill to weaken things... >_> But I used Haar a lot; he's one of my highest levelled people.

And I do, to use every SS-rank magic... :X

I might replace Laura with Elincia or someone else, then...

Well, my Astrid is really underlevelled, and Geofery's not really there so my Titania already passed him by.

And I don't like having more than one of a class, so Eddie's my only Swordmaster-unit... Ike, Elincia and Mist are the only others. :X Ike wants Ragnell and Elincia wants Amiti, so maybe Mist can get Alondite... But I dunno.

Thanks!
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2007, 12:27:49 PM »

Use Geoff, not astrid. Then slap Paragon on Michaiah or Nolan.

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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2007, 03:45:15 PM »

I've played the game about 4 times (playthroughs), and each time, (On easy, mind you) I managed to get each of my units to 20/20/20 (Save the mandatory Laguz I choos,e and a Heron, who I just BEXP up). My advice is, SPREAD OUT your units through each part. Take into consideration how many units will end up in one of the parts. My suggestion is to have about 1-4 at most through each of them.
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2007, 06:20:00 AM »

Your team looks fine to me and very similiar to my last one. The only potential problem that I see is you training Pelleas. He needs a ton of BEXP or you need to focus Part IV Chapter 2 just on leveling him.

Laura is just fine and I consider her to be one of the best magic users as long as you train her(which is usually not worth the effort). If you already have her promoted to second tier then you should just keep using her because she is more durable than most magic users on normal mode with her insane avoid. Give her a support with Aran(I think that gives avoid). Also if you are not giving Micaiah Rexaura then give her the skill Stillness.

Then about Haar... you really do not need to use him since him and Nolan are both useful if you have been leveling Nolan. If Nolan is not at too high a level or his stats are not very good then use Haar but other than that I would go with Nolan on normal mode since Wyvern's are weak against Magic and Nolan isn't really. Just give him a support with Edward.


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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2007, 03:28:10 PM »

a note on geoffery: he has good initial base stats, but by the time he got got to Silver Knight (whatever chapter in part 3 where you use elincia's team), he was being double-hitted by everything and had horrible defense, if i remember correctly. in other words, geoffery stinks. also, i blessed Thani on my 1st playthrough, and thorougly regretted it. otherwise, your team looks good to me. 
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« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2007, 05:06:14 PM »

For Micaiah I personally prefer blessing Nosferatu over Rexaura. Rexaura is nice, but I mostly used her as a healer in the final chapters, and as such she didn't really attack much except on the counterattack, where she could make good use of the healing effect due to high magic.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2007, 06:41:31 AM »

Your best bet for Paladins is Titania since, at this moment, if you haven't trained Astrid yet, she's at a nice level and does well as a paladin.  Although, on my Normal playthrough, I'm using Geoffrey for a Geoffrey/Elincia ending, but I would've used my Astrid who had superb stats (cause I threw Blossom on her....so each level, she was gaining about 6-8 stat-ups each. ;; ) Normal level gains with spiced up growth (since she had paragon automatically so only her and Geoffrey had this chance to use blossom.)  Anyways, my Geoffrey is kind of meh, even with blossom, because the fact that he only gains 3 out of Astrid's 6-8 growth each time makes me nervous!  But Titania is a stable paladin so it's best if you went with her as your Geoffrey would be pretty low leveled himself from lack of screen time use.

And as Harper said, you don't need that many sages.  Heck, I didn't even used Sanaki last time and only had Soren and Tormod (and from my normal playthrough, Pelleas is very similar to Tormod, stats-wise) as my archsages and slaughtered with them.  So, yes, you don't need many magic users. :S

Micaiah with Nosferatu would be a good choice, although, I never used Micaiah to fight much, even when I tried. ;;;

On my easy playthrough, I got most of my units, who I took to the final chapters, at 20/20/20.  As of note on saving EXP and BEXP, just use the units who you consider taking with you on the final chapters and base your training mainly on them.  Even on Normal, I had saved up a lot of BEXP from doing this technique as all of the characters I took with me were at a good level and could handle themselves.
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« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2007, 10:41:21 AM »

Oscar's a great candidate for Paladin because of his Earth affinity; support with Ike means he'll never get hit and low caps means you can BEXP his strength when his speed/skill max.
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2007, 01:04:13 PM »

Thanks everyone, but I beat the game a few days after my last post...

But I can use this for future plans in HM...

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Use Geoff, not astrid. Then slap Paragon on Michaiah or Nolan.
I actually ended up dropping both, and giving Paragon to Micaiah and Laura, and then Eddie and Sanaki, and then Kurth and Ena, and then Sothe and Eddie (Eddie was really really underlevelled >_>). Calill had the third one; I forgot she did. I gave that one to Pelleas.

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My advice is, SPREAD OUT your units through each part. Take into consideration how many units will end up in one of the parts. My suggestion is to have about 1-4 at most through each of them.
I'll try that next playthrough... I used way too many units in general, especially Micaiah's units. >_>; I had about 7 units in part four for her, and about 3-4 for the others.

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Your team looks fine to me and very similiar to my last one. The only potential problem that I see is you training Pelleas. He needs a ton of BEXP or you need to focus Part IV Chapter 2 just on leveling him.
Actually, no! I didn't use any B EXP at all on him... In Elincia's team, I was using a grand total of four units. Shinon, Tibarn, Ilyana, and Pelleas. I used Elincia for healing being a shield but also Reyson (but he wasn't fighting). Tibarn just punched enemies to death and got good EXP while Ilyana made sure not too many enemies attacked him and healed him if he got hit. Pelleas attacking twice and Shinon took care of most of the enemies, and I think he promoted by the end. I gave him Beastfoe so he could one-round the laguz in the fifth chapter, which got him to a really high level...

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Laura is just fine and I consider her to be one of the best magic users as long as you train her(which is usually not worth the effort). If you already have her promoted to second tier then you should just keep using her because she is more durable than most magic users on normal mode with her insane avoid. Give her a support with Aran(I think that gives avoid). Also if you are not giving Micaiah Rexaura then give her the skill Stillness.
I messed up and accidently blessed Nosferatu instead, which was useless, but since Micaiah didn't have an SS in staff, I gave her Ashera and Fortify so she could heal... Sanaki got Stillness since she was about as durable as a piece of paper. >_>;

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Then about Haar... you really do not need to use him since him and Nolan are both useful if you have been leveling Nolan. If Nolan is not at too high a level or his stats are not very good then use Haar but other than that I would go with Nolan on normal mode since Wyvern's are weak against Magic and Nolan isn't really. Just give him a support with Edward.
I dropped Haar as well. Oddly enough, he was my 5th top killer. >_>;

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a note on geoffery: he has good initial base stats, but by the time he got got to Silver Knight (whatever chapter in part 3 where you use elincia's team), he was being double-hitted by everything and had horrible defense, if i remember correctly. in other words, geoffery stinks. also, i blessed Thani on my 1st playthrough, and thorougly regretted it. otherwise, your team looks good to me.
My Geoffery wasn't that bad... o_0 But about Thani, I blessed Purge instead... It was useful for the Dragons, so Sothe could kill something (>_>... But not really all that useful.

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For Micaiah I personally prefer blessing Nosferatu over Rexaura. Rexaura is nice, but I mostly used her as a healer in the final chapters, and as such she didn't really attack much except on the counterattack, where she could make good use of the healing effect due to high magic.
But if you use a staff, you equip it... >_> So you'd have to trade to equip Nosferatu... but Nosferatu didn't really work out with Laura for me, but eh...

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Your best bet for Paladins is Titania since, at this moment, if you haven't trained Astrid yet, she's at a nice level and does well as a paladin.  Although, on my Normal playthrough, I'm using Geoffrey for a Geoffrey/Elincia ending, but I would've used my Astrid who had superb stats (cause I threw Blossom on her....so each level, she was gaining about 6-8 stat-ups each. ;; ) Normal level gains with spiced up growth (since she had paragon automatically so only her and Geoffrey had this chance to use blossom.)  Anyways, my Geoffrey is kind of meh, even with blossom, because the fact that he only gains 3 out of Astrid's 6-8 growth each time makes me nervous!  But Titania is a stable paladin so it's best if you went with her as your Geoffrey would be pretty low leveled himself from lack of screen time use.
I actually ended up dropping Titania as well... But my Astrid was growing really well, which was why I was considering using her.

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And as Harper said, you don't need that many sages.  Heck, I didn't even used Sanaki last time and only had Soren and Tormod (and from my normal playthrough, Pelleas is very similar to Tormod, stats-wise) as my archsages and slaughtered with them.  So, yes, you don't need many magic users. :S
I'll try to cut down on magic users next playthrough, but I love magic...

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Oscar's a great candidate for Paladin because of his Earth affinity; support with Ike means he'll never get hit and low caps means you can BEXP his strength when his speed/skill max.
I used him on my first playthrough, and yeah, +45 Avd is hax. (I also had A support with him on both my PoR saves; stupid IkexOscar builind up way faster than IkexSoren )

Overall, I had only a few 20/20/20s, but a lot of my non-20/20/20s maxed almost everything (my Nolan maxed everything at 20/20/17! =D).
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