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« on: January 28, 2008, 09:21:17 PM »

Okay, maybe not.

In any case, it seems quite obvious that Soren has a thing for Ike and he's the only one Ike really...talks about his feelings to.  Are they an item?  I don't think Ike's bi cause he basically doesn't accept to stay a lord under Elincia.  Plus, he's scared of Aimee.

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Something that a member named Lone Archer made: http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p46/Lone_Archer/Radiant%20Dumb/009Shipping.png

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« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 09:28:47 PM »

I don't think Ike's bi cause he basically doesn't accept to stay a lord under Elincia.
You saw the kind of stressful politics that came up in Crimea during part 2. Can you really blame him for not wanting to be part of that? Not to mention the fact he wouldn't exactly have an easy time disbanding the mercenary group his father worked so hard to make...
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 10:00:35 PM »

That still doesn't explain why he likes his free time with Soren(imo, that's no friend shit).  Not to mention the fact that they're emotional around each other.

And just for the record, I'm not complaining.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 02:24:36 AM »

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That still doesn't explain why he likes his free time with Soren(imo, that's no friend shit).  Not to mention the fact that they're emotional around each other.
Brotherly love?
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 03:00:40 AM »

I agree with that. IMO, they don't look like lovers. Ike take care of him like he do with Mist, and act with Soren like IMO again he would with her.
On Soren's side, well, that's even easier: Ike is the sole and only person that he could ever trust. Everyone else was at best suspicious of him, and more commonly downright hostile to him in his childhood. Except Ike. It is said that it was him, not Gawain nor Mist that did come back to bring food to Soren. It was Ike. It's logical for such a character, hardened and used to be shunned to hold to the peoples that he can actually trust. And in this case, Ike is the only one.
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« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2008, 03:41:41 AM »

Ike take care of him like he do with Mist, and act with Soren like IMO again he would with her.

Fire Emblem has a tradition of incest though....
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 03:53:42 AM »

... Good point
Let's say they wanted to break the habits?
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 07:03:06 AM »

Eh, does it matter? Since it wasn't stated or explicitely implied, we can only guess. See it whichever way you want to. Brotherly love, very good friendship or love.
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 09:07:05 AM »

That still doesn't explain why he likes his free time with Soren(imo, that's no friend shit).  Not to mention the fact that they're emotional around each other.
Because it is 100% impossible for two men to be close friends without it being sexual.

I like to spend my free time with my good friends, and we all care about one another. Clearly we're all gay for each other.
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 10:30:24 AM »

Fire Emblem has a tradition of incest though....

Are you talking about every game in the series, or just a few? I've heard about the incestuous relationships in Fire Emblem 4, and I know that there's a bit of incest in FE7 and 8, but as far as I know there isn't any in FE3...

In any case, even heterosexual guys are sometimes scared of women. Given how young Ike was in FE9 and how... persistent... Aimee was, it doesn't surprise me that Ike was put off by her. Heck, I would be too, and I'm heterosexual.

In any case, I am pretty sure that Elincia's feelings for Ike were stronger than Ike's for Elincia, judging by what they said to each other in the ending cinematic of FE9.
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 12:14:53 PM »

That comic is hilarious lol.
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 01:38:13 PM »

I even have trouble to actually believe to ErikaXEphraim.
I mean, except if there is no single doubt left in the Japanese version, they just seems to have a close brotherly relationship. And guess what? They are twins.
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 05:41:57 PM »

Because it is 100% impossible for two men to be close friends without it being sexual.

I like to spend my free time with my good friends, and we all care about one another. Clearly we're all gay for each other.
Yes, because loving each other means you have to have sexual contact. >_>  Way to bend my words.  Not exactly what I was trying to get at but take it as you will.

As for Saeclum: The support between Ephraim and Eirika(forgot what level) was really intimate.  He strokes her face and stuff.  She only says "everybody can see us" or something to that sort; not bothering to mention that she doesn't like it.  But, we're not really talking about them anyways.
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 11:18:15 PM »

hmmm i've always seen it as a brotherly love myself,

however, i think the game is pretty good about leaving it open to interpretation, and you could easily make an argument for both.
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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2008, 04:58:44 AM »

Yes, because loving each other means you have to have sexual contact. >_>  Way to bend my words.  Not exactly what I was trying to get at but take it as you will.

Maybe he wanted to says "as in, fueled by sexual desire, instead of just being a brotherly relationship." i also would like to add a thing: the fact they live quite dangerous existence may also explain that they are a little more concerned with each other existence. Ike sees Soren as someone that need to be protected, along with Mist and some other, whileSoren he Ike as a reckless guy that put himself in danger easily.

As for Saeclum: The support between Ephraim and Eirika(forgot what level) was really intimate.  He strokes her face and stuff.  She only says "everybody can see us" or something to that sort; not bothering to mention that she doesn't like it.  But, we're not really talking about them anyways.
Well, I don't intend to draw on much further on that topic but, yes they do have an intimate relation... Which at that level don't means necesseraly incest. They ARE twins, after all, which can be the base of quite an intimate relationship. Add to that the fact they are engulfed in a vicious war, where their heads are threatened, and thus, every day they share may be the last, and their support may not means a incest, in the NA et Euro version at least. (I think we should continue this elsewhere, if you have something to add).
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« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2008, 08:49:48 PM »

I always thought it was interesting both of Ike's paired endings are with guys.

Both with Ranulf and Ike its implied he goes off on a journey with them, right?  I don't think there's any female supports for him that do that

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« Reply #16 on: February 03, 2008, 08:57:45 PM »

Ike and Ranulf do not have a paired ending.

I'd know, as I supported them...

EDIT: Actually, Ranulf doesn't seem to have any paired endings with anyone at all... Kinda funny considering that he's one of the most sociable characters in the game.
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« Reply #17 on: February 03, 2008, 09:48:11 PM »

Well, Ranulf goes off on a journey if he has A support with Ike.  Considering Ike goes off on a journey, I thought it was pretty much implied they went off together.

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« Reply #18 on: February 03, 2008, 09:51:44 PM »

Even if he doesn't support Ike, he goes on a journey, as he only has one ending. I'd need to look it up, but it's clearly different from the one that Ike goes on (the difference being that Ike is never seen again when he leaves on his, while Ranulf's makes him worthy of his "Friend of Nations" title).
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« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2008, 09:54:22 PM »

No, if he doesn't support Ike, Ranulf stays with Skrimir - which was the ending I had ( I supported Ike with Soren )



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