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http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/music/music22_list.htmlFire Emblem:Shadow Dragons and the Blade of Light So discuss, NOA ruining another translation or NOA putting out another good FE translation? Though, I wouldn't consider this a permanent title by far.
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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2008, 04:37:18 AM » |
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Shadow Dragons, right... I don't see anything shadowy about Dark Dragons. Also there was only one Dark Dragon so the plural is unnecessary.
Hopefully it's not fixed, since they have the BK's theme under the Japanese title, and probably the same with Strike.
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2008, 07:57:07 AM » |
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It could just be a messed up translation by the person/people that had to translate the page for the NA site. That's a ton of tracks and such to have to put translations down for, so it's entirely possible that it's just a screw up. Either way, the name doesn't sound very fluid to me at all, and I've not even played a translated version of FE1(as such, I only know about 2 things in regards to the game). I mean, if they're going to have a long subtitle, at least make it closer to the translated name...  (Though, since it is another remake, it is possible that they could be changing things and thus have a reason to translate it that way. I mean, heck, there's already a new character...) |
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2008, 09:02:57 AM » |
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I mean, if they're going to have a long subtitle, at least make it closer to the translated name...
How is "Shadow Dragons and Blade of Light" that far off from "Dragon of Darkness and Sword of Light"? Plus there's the fact I believe the latter is technically a fantranslation... |
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« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2008, 09:55:36 AM » |
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How is "Shadow Dragons and Blade of Light" that far off from "Dragon of Darkness and Sword of Light"?
Plus there's the fact I believe the latter is technically a fantranslation...
Your answer lies in Vincent's post. (And, by Fire Emblem terms, Blade is a significantly bigger sword than a Sword.) Also, I seem to remember someone saying that Nintendo or IS patented FE1's name(though no one ever figured out why), though I do have a feeling that it was meant that they patented the Japanese name... |
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« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2008, 11:18:00 AM » |
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Shadow Dragons, yeah it sounds stupid. Just be thankful they actually included it and didn't just leave it out out of laziness.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2008, 11:38:20 AM » |
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Why couldn't they have stuck with Fire Emblem DS (The Dragon and the Sword)?
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2008, 11:40:45 AM » |
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Eh, I don't have a problem with it. The word shadow is oftentimes associated with evil and so on. Yeah, there is only one dark dragon, but many of the enemy dragons could be considered evil. At least that's how I see it. (And, by Fire Emblem terms, Blade is a significantly bigger sword than a Sword.) I think you're over analyzing things just a little bit. FE7's subtitle is usually translated as "Blazing Sword" in reference to the Durandal. As we all know, the Durandal is at least twice as tall as Eliwood. Does that mean that subtitle that most of us use is "incorrect"? And besides, the Falchion always seemed like a fairly large sword to me. : / |
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« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2008, 11:46:13 AM » |
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Eh, I don't have a problem with it. The word shadow is oftentimes associated with evil and so on. Yeah, there is only one dark dragon, but many of the enemy dragons could be considered evil. At least that's how I see it.
I think you're over analyzing things just a little bit. FE7's subtitle is usually translated as "Blazing Sword" in reference to the Durandal. As we all know, the Durandal is at least twice as tall as Eliwood. Does that mean that subtitle that most of us use is "incorrect"?
And besides, the Falchion always seemed like a fairly large sword to me. : /
I'm pretty sure that Lyn referred to Durandal as "The Blazing Blade" in the English translation. Anyway, they misromanized Aritia as Altea in Marth's trophy in SSBM, so I think this is just business as usual. |
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« Reply #10 on: January 29, 2008, 11:50:55 AM » |
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Your answer lies in Vincent's post.
Technically, "shadow" and "darkness" are terms that could be used interchangably when referring to something that's evil... Although to get more technical, weren't there a bunch of darkness dragons in FE1 while Medeus himself was an earth dragon? |
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« Reply #11 on: January 29, 2008, 11:52:50 AM » |
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@Musashi - There was a reason that that was in parentheses, you know.. >_>
The Falchion isn't THAT large. It's at least significantly smaller than Durandal, and Marth seems to be able to wield it one-handed at times(SSBM, certain TCG art, etc.).
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« Reply #12 on: January 29, 2008, 11:54:41 AM » |
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The Falchion isn't THAT large. It's at least significantly smaller than Durandal, and Marth seems to be able to wield it one-handed at times(SSBM, certain TCG art, etc.).
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« Reply #13 on: January 29, 2008, 11:56:06 AM » |
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Technically, "shadow" and "darkness" are terms that could be used interchangably when referring to something that's evil... Although to get more technical, weren't there a bunch of darkness dragons in FE1 while Medeus himself was an earth dragon? They were most likely Demon Dragons. |
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« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2008, 12:01:20 PM » |
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The Falchion isn't THAT large. It's at least significantly smaller than Durandal, and Marth seems to be able to wield it one-handed at times(SSBM, certain TCG art, etc.). And besides, Marth gets the Fire Emblem long before he gets Falchion, so I don't think he could use Falchion two-handed even if he wanted to. |
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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2008, 12:02:29 PM » |
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They were most likely Demon Dragons.
I'd say you have a point, but the translations I've seen have been pretty varied... Some say dark dragons, some say demon dragons, some say magic dragons, and others say time dragons... |
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2008, 12:30:52 PM » |
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Time is definitely wrong.
The Japanese name is Maryuu (魔竜). Ryuu is obvious dragon, but different people interpret Ma differently.
The better interpretation of Ma IMO is referring to evilness and not magic. I myself would go for the more literal "Demon", instead of "Dark" (especially since Dark Dragons already exist, unless you want to call them Shadow Dragons, but nobody would think of that...). Evil Dragon isn't too bad, but I remembered Chiki can become one XD
Also, Idoun was a Maryuu, and NOA called her a Demon Dragon (one of their few obscure translations that I actually like).
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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2008, 03:14:40 PM » |
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Anyway, they misromanized Aritia as Altea in Marth's trophy in SSBM, so I think this is just business as usual. Actually, in keeping with the theme that Fire Emblem location being named after real ones (Lycia,Bern..ect) Altea is the better choice. |
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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2008, 03:18:24 PM » |
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Also, Idoun was a Maryuu, and NOA called her a Demon Dragon (one of their few obscure translations that I actually like).
They did!?  Anyway, I would've thought they would shorten the title to something more concise. |
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2008, 03:21:28 PM » |
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Yeah, it was in the NA extended Epilogue, when Jahn meets Zephiel (although I assume that's what you're referring to). Something like "Why have you awakened a Demon Dragon?"
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