Fire Emblem DS

[Areth]

Since the old topic about Fire Emblem DS has been hanged, drawn necroposted, and quartered locked, I thought I'd put my $0.02 into a new thread about it.

It's probably old news, but it struck me that Marth in this remake looks too much like Ike in FE9 and 10. Looking at the videos and pictures of Marth and Ike in SSBB, I see that Marth's hair looks well-combed and smooth, whereas Ike's is untamed and spiky.

Granted, Marth's hair in the below link doesn't look as untamed and spiky as Ike's, but given how he looked in Super Smash Brothers Melee and Brawl, I thought he could look more like that.

http://media.ds.ign.com/media/142/14209935/img_4961743.html

I guess I'm wondering if his appearance might change during development, since the game was announced only a few months ago.

Anyways... um, cue discussion...

[Charliecane]

I sure hope Marth's appearance changes. He looks too much like he did in the NES version. And not in a good way.

EDIT: If I'm not mistaken, Roy looked considerably different in an early screenshot of FE6, so it's possible that the same could happen to Marth.

[BlackFire]

So did Titania in an early screenshot from Path of Radiance.. and Ike was named Paris, so anything can happen.

[gemini-saga]

I hope the char become more like SSBB... since it's well known look.

[Dmasta]

Personally I believe (as well as a small group my of co-workers) that if Marth just promoted into Ike everyone would be much happier.  As of right now I have pretty much no respect for Marth and I don't quite understand the hype around him. 

But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the original Fire Emblem was lacking a lot of stuff from current ones, but I of course have never played the original so I don't know for sure.  I assume that they will add a lot of stuff the old one was missing, like triangles and classes and spells and maybe even all of the new weapons they just added to Radiant Dawn.  Course they could always try and keep it true to the original too.  Which do you think is more likely?

[VincentASM is too important to have a messed up name]

Personally I believe (as well as a small group my of co-workers) that if Marth just promoted into Ike everyone would be much happier.  As of right now I have pretty much no respect for Marth and I don't quite understand the hype around him.

Hype surrounding him?

Marth is basically another Fire Emblem Lord. Is there something wrong with that? Why don't we have Alm, Sigurd, Celice, Leaf, Roy, etc. be the same character while we're here? o__o

Marth is Marth. Ike is Ike. Their personalities and history are completely different. Ike is your rugged and blunt mercenary, Marth is your thoughtful and kind prince :S

[Areth]

The weapon triangle has been confirmed, I'm pretty sure that Priests can get EXP from using staves (like in FE3), there's still no word on whether Marth will get promoted, but if he does, he'll stay Marth...

I seem to remember something about the dialogue of even FE7 being an improvement over that of FE6, so I'm fairly confident that in this remake the dialogue will be improved. (Maybe even translated into English for the American/European release? /cross fingers) In any case, Marth and Ike are kind of different characters anyway; Marth is an exiled prince, whereas Ike is... um, the son of an exiled noble... uh, nevermind.

I guess that despite being of noble birth, Ike is about as far removed from the stereotypical Fire Emblem Lord as one can be, whereas Marth is the personification of said stereotype. (Unless I'm thinking of Jeigan, the personification of the crappy starter paladin...) So I guess I can understand your dislike of Marth in favor of Ike, although I personally disagree.

[Neofox]

In any case, Marth and Ike are kind of different characters anyway; Marth is an exiled prince, whereas Ike is... um, the son of an exiled noble... uh, nevermind.

Greil renounced his nobility from Daein when he left (of his own free will, he wasn't exiled) much like how Ike later renounced his nobility from Crimea. Therefore, Ike is of common birth.

[SlippyToasterTrooper_UK]

The weapon triangle has been confirmed, I'm pretty sure that Priests can get EXP from using staves (like in FE3)

It hasn't been confirmed or denyed yet but there is a reason the FE1 method of priests gaining EXP died out making it pretty likely that it'll be like FE3.

Of course the thing i'm really curious to see is if priests will be able to use heal staves on people with full HP and still gain EXP. Probably not but it was fun to do in FE3 anyway.

[Lord Fuckboy]

As of right now I have pretty much no respect for Marth and I don't quite understand the hype around him.

First FE Lord to ever exist, thank you very much.

[gemini-saga]

I Have some hate on Marth in SSB World, in FE world for me he is normal, nothing to extraordinary... Since the mangá Scanlation is Paused, I hope this game explore his Way.

[Dmasta]

Heheheheh wow I didn't think my comment about Marth and Ike would be considered so seriously.  Really though mostly I am just sick of everyone being so Marth happy because he was a decent character in super smash bros melee. I'm really hoping that this game raises my opinion of him because right now I just see him as this kind of lame, pants-less, tiara wearing guy who isn't that great.  But again, I never played the first Fire Emblem so I don't exactly know the full deal behind him.

[Darkslime]

Maybe you should have done a little research before making claims like that, hm? And contrary to what you may think, not everyone likes Marth solely because he was in some other immensely popular video game. I'm not saying you have to change your opinion of him - lol no pants - but please, don't do that.

Personally, I think that the lack of dialogue in FE1 and even FE3 doesn't allow Marth's character and personality to grow to their full potential, which is what I'm hoping for in the remake. More story and character interaction, not just, "OMG Marth help us" "k" and "thx Marth" "np" okay, so that wasn't ALL of it, but it was a lot of it

And besides, I think he put pants on in FE3.... xD

[Celice]

I don't remember pants in Monshou (FE3) D:

I'd rather keep his bad dialog, as long as the text could be sped up this time 'round.

[Ice Dragon]

In-game, no pants.
Official art, pants.

Seeing as almost none of the characters really had that much development (assuming FE1's script wasn't too different from its FE3 remake's), I'd say a revamping of the script is almost certain. Also, seeing as there'll be at least one new character, they'll have to make some new dialogue for that, too.

I have a feeling the remake will play quite similarly to the recent games in terms of the non-battle mechanics (text speed, cursor speed, map view, R-button/Y-button/etc help feature, etc, etc). Or at least I'd hope so.

[Neofox]

I'd rather keep his bad dialog, as long as the text could be sped up this time 'round.

Personally, I feel that keeping stuff like the lack of dialogue, everything capping at 20, not having ways of negating weight, and etc. would be a pretty big step down considering how far the series has come since the first 3 games. Yeah, we all had fun making up our own idea for each bland character's personalities, and they're examples of the kind of things that made the oldest games so different compared to the new ones, but to keep it that way after we've come so far would just feel like a downgrade.

[Brave Axe]

Personally I believe (as well as a small group my of co-workers) that if Marth just promoted into Ike everyone would be much happier.  As of right now I have pretty much no respect for Marth and I don't quite understand the hype around him. 

I think people just want Marth to promote.

I think Marth was made the way he was because after being redesigned as much as him you start to run out of ideas. His sister or girlfriend looks like Tana.

[Charliecane]

I haven't seen too many people drool over Marth just because he was in Smash Bros. I have encountered a few, but that was a long time ago.

From what I've observed, Marth doesn't get much hype at all within the Fire Emblem fandom, probably because not many English-speaking fans have played the games he starred in. What little hype Marth does have is usually negative, because of his inability to promote, which is a conundrum seeing as how characters like Barts and and Julian tend to get a fair amount of praise, and they also lack a promotion.

[Suichimo]

I sure hope Marth's appearance changes. He looks too much like he did in the NES version. And not in a good way.

EDIT: If I'm not mistaken, Roy looked considerably different in an early screenshot of FE6, so it's possible that the same could happen to Marth.

Yeah.  I don't want FE1 Marth, looks kind of "special".

And Roy did look pretty different.


Heck, the whole game looked different back when it was still a 64 title.  They should remake FE6 into what it would've been on the 64 for the DS.


As for the actual subject here.  I wonder if they'll add any of the modern classes in, such as Myrmidon, and if they'll let characters who couldn't promote promote.

[gemini-saga]

Yeah.  I don't want FE1 Marth, looks kind of "special".

And Roy did look pretty different.


Heck, the whole game looked different back when it was still a 64 title.  They should remake FE6 into what it would've been on the 64 for the DS.


As for the actual subject here.  I wonder if they'll add any of the modern classes in, such as Myrmidon, and if they'll let characters who couldn't promote promote.

Roy looks like Melee.
I think FE6 deserve a Remake, this game is easily one of the worst, because was poor made.
I think Eliwood Son deserve a better game.